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Thursday, January 23, 2014

A good movie.

This never came to our theater, but it is finally on Direct TV pay per view. I watched it and really enjoyed it. First, it portrays older men as viable human beings. That's rare today, when characters of that nature are usually there as comic relief. Second, I've always liked Robert Redford since I saw "Jeremiah Johnson" in the campus theater at the University of New Mexico in 1972, I think it was. Sorry about the add at the beginning of the trailer. I couldn't find one without it.

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  1. That' is a sailors worst fear having to abandon ship and drift. Training in these situations is paramount. I haven't seen this movie and don't know what time period it happens, but if I was alone on a sailboat, i would be sure I had a EPIRB with me for SAR.

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    1. I agree. I think you would enjoy it, it's out on DVD now. I like sailboating but like the Greeks and Romans l always stayed close inshore. All my blue water sailing was with the U.S.Navy and mostly with the Gator Navy though I did some time aboard Mount Whitney, Puget Sound,and Bainbridge and even got just a few days on New Jersey off Lebanon.

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    2. Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      Did you say you did some time onboard the U.S.S. Puget Sound???

      I remember the Mount Whitney when it was painted all white and tied up along side the pier at Bahrain.

      On the way Hollywood portrays old guys is of course disgraceful and that's why I hardly watch movies anymore. That and the mainstreaming of 'unnatural behavior' between same sexes.
      Eventually' Hollywood will collapse, maybe not in my lifetime but if we are lucky maybe a "Tungusta Siberian Meteor 1908, airburst of let's say 700 kilotons flattens Hollywood and all surrounding trees in a 100 mile circle (the ultimate act of God) I would actually have a laugh. The only problem is all the collateral damage and lives ruined, that would be sad. It would be nice to see though actors like George Clooney (who made fun of Charleston Hestons Altziemers) get vaporized.

      On a side note, I think many in Hollywood like Merle Streep and Tina Fey, would join Bill Ayers little rabble of "Socialist Nazi Misfits" and try and pack people like me and you Harry (with 25 million) of our fellow Patriots into death camps.
      I would not put it past some of them Harry. This is serious business. I would say 90 percent of Hollywood is full on "Nazi Socialist" the types that believe in forcing their beliefs upon you and me at 'pain of death' if need be to achieve their "Socialist Utopian Nightmare"

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    3. Oh, yes. Indeed. The Puget Sound was the Sixth Fleet Flagship when I was on the staff of COMSTRIKFORSOUTH 1982-1984. She was homeported in Gaeta, Italy and I was down in Naples. Admiral Martin was both COMSIXTHFLEET on the national side and COMSTRIKFORSOUTH on the NATO side. I spent too much time on the Whitney, she was homeported in Norfolk at the time as I recall, but we did all sorts of communications exercises with fleet units and FMF units aboard her. That's what she was built for, but she didn't go to sea much. The first time I saw her she had green weeds growing off the anchor chain that looked like they had been there for years. Most of my "floats" were on LST's like Manitowac and Barnstable County. I worked off the Guam and the Iwo Jima on exercises in Turkey. Great old ships. As I think I told Senior Chief once, I believe every single one of them has been sent to the breaker or sold to South Americans, Turks, Greeks, etc. I once saw the ready room chairs from the Iwo Jima for sale in a magazine, made me feel really sad, guess I'm sentimental about those "old days." Sometimes, anyway.

      Hollywood wasn't always like that. Remember John Wayne, Tyrone Power, Humphrey Bogart, Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, Ernest Borgnine, people like that? And the women were real women, not females that had to run around beating up all the men and riding off on their motorcycles. I must have been something really bad in a previous life to have been reincarnated into this time period. >:- (



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    4. Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      Guess what Marine, I was in 3rd division on the boat deck onboard the Puget Sound when it was in Norfolk....in 88' through 1990. I was a deck ape and cross rated to Fireman and worked on the diesels on all the boats. Did lots of other things too. I'm sure I had my hands on some of the same 'snot green 671 Detroit's you rode in. I can tell you some crazy stories.
      I can still smell the smells from the messdecks, and I can remember my around that boat as if it was yesterday. I used to jog around the 'materiel handling passageway' I was first berthed in 'deck berthing, forward of the mess decks and then we "fireman' got moved to another berthing compartment one deck below deck division. I lucked out and got a middle rack. What I really miss the most is Navy meatloaf. Yeah' that's right, in my Dad's day it was 'shit on shingle' (chipped beef) In my time it was Navy meatloaf. I still can't find good Navy styled meatloaf. I don't know what kind of grub you officers ate, but I remember 'officers country' and the mess deck there.

      I got lots of stories, as well a I guess you do too. Maybe we have known or met some of the same people.

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  2. I think older men (or I suppose women) can be very capable. They are often surprisingly strong though it might be once or twice when a younger man could do it a half dozen times. There are enough senior citizens running marathons these days to show they can have plenty of cardiovascular endurance given proper training. If they have practiced a particular skill set they are probably an expert at it.

    Of course there are limitations. Their capacity to heal and continue to take punishment is not very good. When I was in Airborne school an older guy (40ish) was in my class. He was smart and in solidly good shape. Ground week which is largely composed of jumping off things 3 foot or so in the air and landing on the ground, albeit in wood chips or something, pretty much did him in. He seemed like a tough guy but just couldn't take it. As a mid 20 something I was eating tylenol like M&M's and still sore.

    What are the odds of running into a bloody CONEX in the middle of the ocean?


    That movie looks depressing.

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    1. Theodore Ryan,

      (captaincrunch)

      You would be surpised to see what floats up on the beach down here, especially after a hurricane in the Gulf Coast. I have also spent much time at sea and all kinds of debris, very little from most western countries due to 'environmental laws', but third world countries are dumping (or accidentally dumping) all kinds of debris.
      The most interesting stuff of recent years was Conex Containers carrying debris from the Tsunami off the Japanease Coast. One Conex Container that washed up in Cananda just north of Washington State had a Harley Davidson motorcycle in it (albeit a bit rusted)

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    2. off topic. read that east african piracy started when the illegal dumping by europeans of deadly chemicals killed the fishing.
      they turned to piracy in desperation.
      it's what i read . don't know if true.
      deb h

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    3. I don't know about everybody but Somalis have been making their livings as raiders and pirates for at least 2000 years. The money is good and it's much higher prestige than working for a living.

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    4. thanks. didn't know the truth of the matter. deb

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  3. I went through the airborne school at Benning in the summer of 73 on permissive orders. Amazing what peer pressure can force you into. I worked out hard for it the entire preceding school year but coming from the cool climate of Albuquerque to the hellish South Georgia summer was tough. It was a long time ago but I don't think we had any older guys.

    Seems to me that Hollywood takes pleasure in portraying older men as comic curmudgeon types. It's nice to see a bit more sympathetic treatment since I'm part of that demographic. As for the movie you have to be able to indulge the willing suspension of disbelief to enjoy any movie and I think this one calls for less of that than most. It isn't depressing,honestly though it may dampen your ardor for blue water sailing.

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  4. Cool, I'll have to get that one. Very interesting premise.

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    1. The DVD is just out. I hope you enjoy it, I sure did. It's showing on Direct TV pay per view, if you get that, but only on one channel.

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  5. I had wanted to see this movie when I first heard about it a few months ago. RR was/is upset at whichever company that did not "promote/push" the flick. Really? If RR thinks that today's avg movie goer would go see this (after word of mouth), I believe he's been smoking crack.
    Mostly no dialogue, no gratuitous explosions, no baring of skin, no THX sound, no "IN A WORLD".
    Me, I figured I'd like it when I heard about it. I was able to get a redbox copy the other day. I usually watch stuff other people do not like, and mostly stay away from what they do.
    I really would like to have the means to go sailing. The whole thing appeals to me, the quiet, the navigation with sextant and chart, the quiet, the thought and planning required, the quiet, of course there are storms and situations, In which case I would hope to carry on as this character did.

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    1. I knew it would never show at the theaters up here. It was a movie you had to be willing to really pay attention to, for the reasons you mentioned. I liked the movie and I'm going to buy myself a copy.

      I got a sailboat license for 30 foot boats from Special Services at Camp Lejeune. They ran the marina, and had sailing lessons on Saturday. It was a lot of fun. I never did any blue water sailing, I'd go from the marina, which was on the New River inlet, out into the Atlantic but then I'd just go up and down the shoreline. Mainly this was because you were not allowed to take special services boats out of the area without passing some special qualifications tests I never took. I never learned to navigate with a sextant, for instance. Even back then you could use the vhf beacons as long as you stayed near shore, and now they have GPS. A few years ago my two brothers wanted to rent a sailboat in Key West and do the grand tour. I wasn't that sure I knew all the in's and out's of things like customs, filing your trip plans, etc. I could sail the boat but I'd never had to worry with all the captain stuff of that nature. I've always felt it was a great opportunity that I missed by being too conservative.

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