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Thursday, January 2, 2014

I was reading about this period in military history today and remembered this scene. They didn't go in for tactical maneuvering much. No fire support, either.




I have been trying to decide when I would have wanted to live if I could pick any time in history.  I haven't made much of a secret of the fact I find this particular historical period we all got plunked down into something less than optimal.

I've written off the period before the invention of firearms. I'm not a Crusader type like Tancred or Bohemond, and would probably have been killed off in short order by the brigands, the Saracens, or in some fight over an apple orchard.  I like Imperial Rome but battling the Gauls, Picts, Germans, et al doesn't appeal.

Maybe this war wouldn't have been such a bad time to be around, because apparently all a company grade officer had to do was learn some rudimentary commands and stand out in front of the troops til he got blasted. I could do that......

The American frontier doesn't hold any interest for me as a time to have lived.   As it is, I live in a log house in the middle of the woods, and even though there are no painted savages hiding in the tree line, I still stay cautious.  If there really were Hurons or Iroquois or whoever out there, I'd be afraid to go to the outhouse!  Same with the latter part of the Westward expansion,  battling the Apaches, Sioux and assorted other hair collectors doesn't resonate with me either. Geronimo for instance.... I think not.

I'll have to keep pondering it. To tell the truth, I lean toward the Victorian period but only if I were from the UK as part of the bargain.

Whatever happens, 
we have got
the Maxim gun,
and they have not.

Sounds good.

17 comments:

  1. I'd be happy being born anytime before 1900. That should pretty much keep me away from White guilt and the DIE-Versity cult.

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    1. But do you have a favorite period, where you feel like you would have fit in better than you do today? That's what I'm trying to figure out. I would still have wanted a military career so that's my big factor.

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    2. Well I really don't have any aspirations of wanting a military career per se. Mostly because the periods where one would be possible require standing armies and I have always been more of the soldier on demand mindset. If I had to choose a place and period I would go for early dark ages Ireland I suppose but only if I could melt 30 years off in the trip.

      Clannish cattle raiding and no outside contact to speak of I could deal with that. Keep the politics small and the large wars few.

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    3. I'm only looking at the military aspects of it because that's what I would have done in any time period, regardless. I guess being a clansman wouldn't have been bad. Being Scotch Irish (or Scots Irish to the europeans) it would probably have worked for me. Still though, that fighting with Claymore and targ, that's up close and personal.

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  2. Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    I would go back in time to the south in 1860 with 100.000 AK-47's and 10 million rounds of ammo, books on engineering, supplies, etc. I would cut a deal with Jefferson Davis. Free the slaves, stay true to the Constitution of the U.S. and I will win the war for you.
    I have a pretty good idea what he outcome would be in the U.S. but as per the rest of the world, world history would be changed. Maybe if the U.S. stayed out of WW1 and Germany took over France WW2 would never have transpired.
    I would also track down Karl Marx in Europe and probably put a bullet in his head, but then the eugenics movement would have gotten worse in Germany and Europe. Russia would still ruled by a Czar and Lenin and Stalin would be lowly factory workers or peasents.

    Maybe the only answer would be to stay in this timeline, learn from history and try not to repeat the same damn mistakes. If our rulers make the same mistakes, recognize what is happening and move somewhere else and not be burned in an oven or buried in a mass grave.

    On a side note; I bet if you built a time machine and traveled 5000 years into the future of Afghanistan, I bet people will still be killing each other there over one stupid thing or another, even just the hell of it.

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    1. You must have been reading "The Guns of Lee." Interesting book but I didn't like the ending.

      I'm not thinking about changing anything or making the world a better place, just looking for the time when I would have fit in better. You would have done well in the Middle Ages, because you're a very direct person and they were respected when the trait was coupled with a capacity for violence. By the way, I think most scientists agree that time travel might be possible but that changing the past is not. I got that impression from Morgan Freeman's "Wormhole" episode on time travel, anyway.

      People will always be willing to fight. When they aren't, they won't be people anymore.

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    2. captain crunch,
      hah!! my great grandfather and great great grandfather were in india with the east indies company.
      the afghans were the same then as they are now. exactly.
      the brits were trying to outmaneuver the tzar's men over the territory then and the americans are trying to outmaneuver the russians in the same place today.
      it will turn out to be just as useless.
      deb h.

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    3. Harry,


      (captaincrunch)


      I never read 'Guns of Lee' I am an anti-racist, states rights constitutionalist. Many of our problems stem from the Civil War and the Reconstruction.
      I think that's interesting that you think I would do well in the middle ages. However I would not want to become one of 'Chaucers tales' like the "Wife of Bath"
      I think time travel and faster than light travel are possible by tuning into the right frequencies somehow someway and manipulating space/time in the Einstienian Universe using string theory perhaps. If Einstiens Unified Field theory exist, then just maybe we can find a way to manipulate the fabric of space/time like we manipulate the radio and cell frequencies. I know I'm way out there, but if fabric of space/time is electromagnetic and all matter has common muons, electrons, etc. Then instead of using shear massive energy such as a black hole, low power can be applied like using a cell phone like device to access the frequencies needed to create wormholes, bubbles in space/time etc.
      I spent much time contemplating all this. Sounds nuts, but look how far we have come just since the 'Wright Brothers' at Kitty Hawk, North Corolina.

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    4. Well, you're no further out there than they are on "Through the Wormhole."

      The interesting thing is that if time travel is ever invented, at any time in the future, then time travelers would be here right now.

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  3. Well, I like the time of the Tudors but I wouldn't want to spend my life in that time period - more just experience it for a year.

    Are you getting this crazy wind?

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    1. Well, if you were a Tudor Lady my advise would be to avoid the court of Henry VIII at all costs!

      Yes, the wind was terrific here overnight. Good bit of snow, too.

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    2. Well, you know, of course if I was in that time, the only way to do it would be at court. Which is why I wouldn't want to be there permanently! A short period of time would be adequate. I love books from that period, and I've watched a few documentaries. One about Hampton Court that was fascinating. I need to get over to England one day to see it myself.

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    3. England is a great place. When I was stationed in Italy, all the Marine Officers stationed in Europe (at that time, about forty) had a boondoggle meeting at the American Embassy every year just before Christmas. We always took our wives. Miriam and I drove up through Switzerland, France and then took the ferry over to Dover. There wasn't any tunnel then. I hope you and your husband get to visit sometime, maybe the whole family although I doubt youngsters would really enjoy it.

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  4. johnny carson used to ask his guests that question. i thought it over and, wherever i might fit in--daniel boone era springs to mind-- i don't want to be in a penicillin -free time period.
    deb h.

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  5. Too many Indian massacres in old Daniel's time. There was a reason why everybody lived within running distance of a fort. But if you have ever seem the old widow lady in Drums along the Mohawk I guess you might be fearless like her. People are, I just am Jumpy by nature. I don't worry about the medical aspects of the time period because if you didn't know that a medicine existed you wouldn't miss it.

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  6. More tactics in the time period than you would expect. With the Prussians in particular, it was the hey day of the hyper well trained professional armies.

    Later mass conscription greatly watered down the capabilities of the infantry.

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    1. Well, the old "high diddle diddle, right up the middle" is still used in the Marine Corps, just like those guys lining up and just walking into it. Personally, I'd have opted for a logistics or staff job in those days. :-)

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