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Wednesday, October 1, 2014

Ebola. What a difference a day makes.



This character who came into Texas infected with Ebola is a real genius.  He was "visiting" relatives in Liberia, which has been ravaged by Ebola.

Why are we letting people fly back into the country after they go prancing around an environment infested with a deadly, and largely untreatable, disease?

So far, the government is refusing to disclose what flights the guy took coming back. Rumor control says he was in the Brussels airport for a layover before coming into the U.S.   No airlines have been notified of his presence on their flights, so no special decontamination procedures have been followed, the airliners he was on are in service.  The airlines don't even know who the passenger was, so they don't know if he was on their flights.

Suddenly the news talking heads, who have been telling us that you can only get Ebola from body fluids, have revised their story. Now, they say things like "usually" or "for the most part" in connection with how you get it.  The Ebola virus, say the talking heads, can live on surfaces for several days. So Joe the Ragman sneezes on his hand,  pushes open a door at a store, and the next people to come into the store......  you see where this leads?

This infected individual has been wandering around the Dallas area for a week.  Every place he ate, bought gas, every store, theater, etc he went into, he may have spread the disease.

It seems that the iron clad guarantee previously handed out to the public that a person is only communicable when he is showing symptoms is not entirely true.

I guess it was inevitable.  We have government drone bureaucrats making decisions based not on science or common sense, but on political expediency.

I wait with great interest to see how all this develops.  If you've got the time, it might be worth watching "After the Apocalypse" on the internet, since it deals with a pandemic.

35 comments:

  1. he went to the hospital on Sunday and they released him..How many people did he come in contact with while at that hospital and back at his familys house,and so on and so on. Now Drudge is reporting another possible case in Dallas.
    It is going to get ugly....

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    1. I don't trust what MSM says one iota. There are too many precedents for the government misleading people in the name of "maintaining calm."

      I'm not impressed with CDC expostulations about "all's well." Their record lately is not one to inspire confidence.

      The news is saying the government will find everybody this Typhoid Mary was in contact with. Fat chance.

      I think it could get ugly, indeed. If the genie gets out of the bottle in Texas, it won't be long before it's everywhere.

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  2. Harry, these "folks" don't really understand the rules of sanitation and how things spread. I've personally see it in action over there in the past. Women changing baby's underpants with poop all over it and then turning right around and eating with the same hand without washing. They are for the most part totally clueless.

    He probably saw his big chance to escape what we would be calling an apocalypse and he took it.

    That being said, I blame our government and the hospital there in Dallas. There have been calls to start shutting down the airlines and airports flying in and out of these countries. Plus he should have been intercepted over here once his plane landed. Then there's the question as of why he went to the hospital and they turned him loose the first time.

    And you hinted at something when you said: "It seems that the iron clad guarantee previously handed out to the public that a person is only communicable when he is showing symptoms is not entirely true." with everything this government has done up to this point, it should have been understood from the beginning that such "guarantees" were nothing but propaganda. I recognized it as such.

    This was nothing but another example of Obama's unwillingness to make decisions while he was out playing golf. Nothing more nothing less.

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    1. The feds should have let the military handle this from the get go. They are the only ones with the stones to make hard decisions. Having the politicians and a bunch of medical types all addicted to the government tit in charge is insane. Now the same buffoons who have been telling us " don't worry" are talking about "the three foot bubble." What the hell?

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    2. Three foot bubble? I'm visiting family and have been out of the loop. I know that their are"friends" of mine on face book that say I am over reacting I would love to link some of the info...I am flying g tomorrow, you bet I will be VERY aware of my hands, people sneezing...

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    3. LTW, google "ebola 3 feet) and you will get links to a CDC discussion of the 3 foot issue, as well as a Minnesota NPR link that deals with it. I first saw it on Fox News, where they very bluntly pressed the doctor "guest" about whether you could get it if you were that close to a sick person. He wiggled around and finally admitted you could. The links will place great emphasis on you needing to be around a sick person for a prolonged period of time, but that's ludicrous. It doesn't matter how long you stood there before or after you got sneezed on or whatever, it's the instant you got infected that matters. I think this is like so much else, the government is trying to spin this to keep people calm. Frightened people are harder to control.

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  3. Harry,

    I'm within 282 miles south of Dallas here in South East Texas. Every person I know here is on alert. The worst thing is that we are only 1.5 hrs East of Houston. It don't take long to get from Dallas to Houston on I45 South at all. That's what I'm worried about. This guy was out touching and breathing all over the place for 8 days. Dallas to Houston is a major pipeline for traffic and people. It's likely it could be Houston soon based on those facts alone. If and when it shows in Houston, I'm out! The powers that be have royally dicked the dog on this one Sir.

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    1. Yes, and all because they were more worried about keeping everything and everybody calm and working and paying taxes. What really infuriates me is we can all be sure that while they were telling the peasantry all was well the same people were making sure that their own familes were covered if there was an outbreak.

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  4. This is what our govt is waiting for so they can declare a national emergency and martial law. Far fetched? I don't put anything past this regime and their desperate bid to stay in power with next month's elections. If that hospital in Texas turned a person with Ebola symptoms away, how many people did those doctors touch before washing their hands? I have to insist that my doctor and his nurse wash their hands whenever them come into the examining room for my appointment. Then they act all pushed out of shape about it. Now it is flu season and the threat of Ebola on top of it. How lucky that the USA govt has the patent on the vaccine.....and the virus, too.

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    1. One of the doctors CNN dragged in said that the prototype vaccine is at least two years from commercial manufacture. It was also implied that no pharmaceutical company was much interested in trying to expedite production unless they were indemnified against law suits because the vaccine would have to be rushed into production for any current crisis. There was also the consideration that if this is all a tempest in a tea pot, who would pay for all that vaccine that wasn't needed? With all the stupid things that the government wastes money on, it seems illogical for the pharmaceutical companies to be sitting on their hands over such issues.

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  5. The 'Slate Wiper' is the one that I fear the most. It has it all - government mandated martial law, food supply chain suspended, economic shut down - the whole shebang. All in the blink of an eye.

    I don't know why travelers from international flights aren't being more closely monitored. Not sure if mandatory quarantine for period of days is required, but man - SOMETHING! I guess sooner or later, it was bound to happen.

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    1. Liberia has essentially collapsed. I can't see why it can't happen here if Ebola gets out of control. If there are indications that is happening I will get my kids home and go into turtle mode.

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    2. Liberia has been collapsed since at least 1980.

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    3. In many respects, yes. But this is bordering on a total disintegration, something not all that common even for Africa.

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  6. My daughter has "friends" on social media talking about how the zombie horde is on it way. Can we even trust the Government any more?? I think not. I for one am very glad I don't work at the airport anymore.

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    1. I haven't trusted the government or MSM for more than thirty years and I'm sure not starting now. Don't blame you for not wanting to be around airports or any other place large numbers of people gather.

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    2. Harry I started as a janitor at the airport back when it was 1/4 of what it is now. I then hired to work ramp, less contact with the public, finally into Catering and Commissary. I was around passengers even less. I was ramp side like 3 hrs but only on the plane 10 min to switch out the catering. I always had gloves on and washed my hands often. The places that could get hit hard with panic is the theme parks in Ca. & Fla.

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    3. Where ever there are large numbers of people, and this thing appears, I think you will have elevated heart rates on a grand scale.

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  7. I have no idea how all of this will play out. But I know two things for certain. Our government will lie, especially if it is to the benefit of the politicians to do so. And if there is even a ghost of a chance to use this to grab more power, they will, as in "never let a good crisis go to waste."

    I would not be at all surprised if infected people turned up in major cities all over the country. Followed by quarantines. Followed by martial law.

    Me...I just kicked my prepping into high gear. I still have a few holes that need to be filled and that is my number one priority. I do not panic easily, but I do think that now is the time for all of the ducks to be in a row.

    I really, truly hope that my tin foil hat is just on too tight and that I am wrong.

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    1. Historically the federal government has used any national crisis to tighten it's grasp on power and to try to subvert the rights of individuals and of the states. I have no doubt that if this became a nation's disaster they would attempt to do so again.

      I am looking over my spreadsheets tonight, trying to decide if I have missed anything.

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  8. Harry, my friend, i just don't even know what to say to this post. and please don't get jam started...when we first read the article about an ebola victim in texas he just threw up his hands and said - "why are we letting anyone who has been to africa fly into north america? why aren't we stopping them and quaranting them? why are we even letting anyone coming from any african country on any of our planes"....

    good questions all. i wonder the same things. this is just going to get ugly.

    our friend jamie from "my adventures in self reliance" has several posts about setting up a bio-containment room in your house and they are very good reading. just fyi. i know that you read jamie but now is probably a good time for all of us to really start thinking about being able to set up a sick room.

    much love to you and yours always. your friend,
    kymber

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  9. Kymber, J is absolutely right. If people can have the disease for twenty days or more without showing symptoms, what good does sticking a thermometer in their ear at the airport do? Why are we still flying into and out of the countries where this disease is raging? Why are we letting people who voluntarily went into the hot zone come back? Who exactly is making these asinine decisions. Is anybody or is it just business as usual because the drones know it's easier to get into trouble for doing something than for doing nothing?

    I don't know where this is going but I don't like the way it is starting to look.

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  10. I live in a rather small town and can stay out of larger cities. However, this is a bedroom community and people go to and from Birmingham and Huntsville everyday. However, I fear for the two children in TX and the one in NYC and all the grandchildren. This terrifies me.

    Last week, I asked the nurse who dropped the O sensor for my finger to wash her hands and the sensor after she fished it from under the bed I was in. She ridiculed me. That makes me very insecure. I ask the doctor and nurses to clean the stethoscope before they put it on me! How many people don't ask? Not many from their reaction. So, doctors and nurses with their attitudes may be spreading this and other diseases. I wonder how careful they are when they go home at night and are around their own families.

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    1. I don't go to hospitals more than I can help it, although I have to acknowledge that this year it's been a more frequent experience than usual. I never ask the people working there about sanitation issues, even though I have read repeatedly that hospitals are a likely place to pick up infections like staph. I always wash my clothing and take a shower as soon as I get home, but the recent events in hospitals associated with this Ebola scare make me wonder if I have not been too lackadaisical about the issue overall.

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  11. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    My stomach feels kinda funny and I think I'm running a fever???

    Oh' no it ain't Ebola. I ate some weird bean dip at a Taco Stand here in South Texas.

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  12. I'm more than surpised, given our lackadaisical border control, that ebola has not shown up here.

    Our government would be completely unable to cope...

    I guess avoiding town (and the chance of meeting anyone / foreigners) is our best option.

    Please - tell the missus to take extra care.

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    1. Dani, you should be ok way out on your place, as long as people don't come out there and bring it with them. My wife and I are surely keeping a weather eye on things as they develop here in the states.

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  13. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    Today was "National Taco Day" (Oct,4)

    Time to squirt that armadillo paste onto a tortilla and yell "Viva La Diarrea"

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    1. I saw a big long article on the Mosin Nagant over at Survival Blog. Have you seen that one?

      Haven't forgotten the book. I have been looking for it, can't remember where I put it after I read it last. Things are settling down here after a particularly busy week, I 'll get my wife to help me look .

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  14. The problem with Ebola is the long incubation period. 21 days is a lifetime!

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    1. That's why it's bizarre to take a persons temperature at the airport, and then say, if they are not running a fever, that it's fine for them to come on to the united states. If they aren't showing any symptoms yet, what's the point? I really think the government believes everybody out here is dull normal.

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  15. The 2nd person was just transfer to Omaha, Nebraska. Lucky us.

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  16. I saw where Spain has the first confirmed case in which a care giver in a European health care facility contracted the disease from a patient. I hope that doesn't happen out your way, or anywhere here. Once that genie gets out of the bottle, I don't know how they will put it back inside. If it is so impossible and all for a person to get it , how did a health care professional wind up with it. Spain's health care system is as good as or better than ours.

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  17. The only way to stop it cold is to drop a nuke on all those people. Not to much else we can do right???

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