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Saturday, July 25, 2015

Russian Arms and Ammunition.


I'm getting really tired of all the nonsense the MSM is putting out about the Russians. This week it was a big story about Russian Bear reconnaissance aircraft in the Bering Straits.  They've been flying those patrols forever. We've been intercepting the patrols forever. The air crew take pictures of each other, and depending on their temperament either hold up signs saying things like "Happy fourth of July" or expressing cruder sentiments.  None of this is new.  But over the weekend of the fourth, one of the Bears came near our airspace. When intercepted, someone in the bear held up a sign that said "Happy Fourth of July."

These routine patrols have been going on since before I was born. We intercept them, they intercept us. 


Fox put out a big segment featuring some twit of a Representative who waxed eloquent about how this "new evidence" of Russian aggressiveness boded ill for the future. I felt like throttling him.

Russia is a big country, it's a powerful country, and just like us it has to deal with all kinds of aggravations. Sometimes we don't like the way they do it, but there are always sources of friction between countries. I honestly think that Obama and his cabal of left wing stooges do this just to distract Americans from the reality of how bad things are getting in this country.  I grew up hearing the Russians were going to  get us one day. I served my entire time in the service practicing to fight the Russians. But it never happened, and enough is enough.  With medieval fundamentalist Islam on the rise, we better start focusing on what really represents a danger, and it isn't Russia.



Bill the Bastard banned the import of Russian weapons in November of 1997.  Before that, you could buy SKS rifles, Mosin Nagant rifles, SVT rifles, Tokorev semi-automatic pistols, Makarov semi-automatic pistols, Nagant revolvers,and all kinds of good gear. It was robust, reliable, easy to maintain, and cheap to buy.






























I took advantage of this before Clinton came along, and got some very nice weapons for very little money.
Today, the same guns would cost you an arm and a leg.  You can still get Mosin Nagant rifles, because they come in through Ukraine and are not banned, but even these are drying up now.



Russian 7.62X54R ammo was very inexpensive and easy to get. I bought it by the case. It's berdan primed so you can't reload it, but when you could get a full case of high quality ammo for $50.00, who cared?



You can still get ammo for all these weapons. The only ammo I use that I don't reload is the ammo for the  Nagant pistol, because it's in the too hard category.

Several companies make the dies, and the brass is easy to get.  I just don't want to mess with it, since the surplus ammo is available from SOG for peanuts.


I really like my Russian weapons.  Some are elegant and real works of art in their own right. Some are plain and utilitarian. But one thing you can count on, if you pull the trigger they all go "boom."




24 comments:

  1. Yeah, they don't want us to have US surplus, either. I guess it must be bad for the gun companies health or something.

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    1. I think Obama and the Brady Bunch don't want us owning sling shots, and I don't think they really care where they're made. Obama has done everything he could to limit access to any kind of weapon as far as the peons like you and me go. "Silly Peasant, guns are for Government!" It was Hillary Clinton who revoked the already issued import permits on the Garands and Carbines from Korea. They keep trumping up all these B.S. executive orders, just whittling away at the Second Amendment since they couldn't get even this obscene Supreme Court to overturn it. Have you been following their new plans for social security recipients in this regard? I bet the Nazi's are green with envy, wishing they had thought of all this.

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  2. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    I got two of them Mosin's.

    I got spam cans to feed the Mosins before the price went up.

    Like I mentioned recently in your blog, I would like to change out the stock on one with the Archangel stock and five round mag. Its only a stock change, no major mods. involved.
    I fired a Mosin with Archangel stock and it felt better than the wood stock. I gotta admit the kick on the mosin is unreal and painful (like getting hit by a girl with Pink Brass Knuckles)
    Im used to firing an AR with an 18 inch bull barrel, full length gas system with a fancy after market muzzle break. Shooting a Mosin is like using a "German World War two rail mounted siege gun"

    I can see how the Russkies fired then rifles all day with long underwear shirt, heavy wool uniform, followed by an even heavier wool coat that added a lot of padding.
    Im sure though they got used to it like anyone will shooting a rifle like that every day.
    I just remembered that there are some nice muzzle breaks for the Mosin that attach easily to the bayonet mount or lug. A proper muzzle break can make a world of difference.

    I wish I knew more about Mosins back in the early 1990's before 'William the Bastard" banned the good Russian stuff.

    I would have bought a crate of the damn things.

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    1. In the 80's Mosin Nagants were affordable. But after communism collapsed in Russia, the market was absolutely awash in unissued condition Mosin Nagants, with bayonet, oil bottle, stripper clips, dog collar sling, for under $50.00 if you had a C&R or FFL and could buy wholesale. I bought a bunch of them, still have them, lovingly preserved. A company called Aztec out of Florida actually did sell them by the full crate at reduced per unit prices. Classic Arms sold them by the crate.

      I'm glad you got some spam cans of ammo. You can still find it from time to time by haunting the internet and by watching the big guys like AIM, SOG, Sportsman's Guide. But the instant you see it on offer you have to order immediately. The damn gun show guys buy it ASAP and then jack up the price at the show.

      All the old World War II full powered battle rifles will beat you up pretty good. I know one guy who got a detached retina firing a Springfield. I used to could take it, but now, after shooting these rifles, I'm so stiff and bruised, even with my old USMC shooting jacket on, that I don't shoot as much as I used to. I could in a pinch though. I'd rather be bruised than eaten by cannibals or overrun by the descendants of Poncho Villa or Shaka Zulu.

      The thing about spending money on the old guns to modify them, is you better get a hell of an advance in performance to justify the cost. I bet if you bought a good shooting jacket you wouldn't need fancy stocks, etc.

      I did modify two of my AK-47's and my RPD with Choate stocks,(these are all Norinco, semi auto guns) but that was during the Clinton Idiotic Regulations period, where I couldn't put a regular stock on them. I can't stand thumb hole stocks. I even sent a Century International Arms FAL all the way to a specialist company in California called Entreprise Arms to have it rebuilt to original configuration legally, using additional U.S. parts. Cost me a lot and the gun didn't shoot any better but it was "real" and not some cobbled together abomination to make the blood suckers at ATF happy.

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  3. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    Update!

    I found the 'Mother of all Mosin Muzzle Breaks' on amazon.

    I did not buy it, but I went to the manufactuers website, Texas Precision Products.

    texasprecisionproducts.com

    they have the muzzle break for $69.95 (free shipping)

    amazon has it for the same price, plus four dollars shipping (screw amazon)

    I tried to order a muzzle break but the paypal account thing was messed up so I will just call them on Monday and I think I will order it.

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    1. Are you sure? That's a hell of a lot of money. I bought a muzzle break for my mini-14 years ago. It made the weapon five inches longer. The first time I used it, the muzzle brake blew off and flew down range 20 feet. I still have it but I never put it on the rifle.

      For that kind of money you could hire a Mexican and have him shoot it for you. When he got too beat up, just get another one.

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    2. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      Your on a role today with some one liners that I have not thought of before.

      On that muzzle break. I will do more research on it. I spent $125 on a Smith Enterprises muzzle break for the M1A with great results (M1A goodies are a premium for the good stuff like the Sadlak Arms scope mount $339 if I recall, which I don't have)

      If certain options allow me to use a rifle or pistol more, then it may be worth the cost

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    3. If you watch the videos for the muzzle break they are pretty impressive. The really do seem cut down on the muzzle flip.

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    4. CC, I guess I am just a purist. There's nothing wrong with putting a muzzle brake on your rifle if you want one. When people at the range ridicule you and ask you where you parked your wheel chair, just tell them the thing was on there when you bought the rifle and you thought it was "original."

      ;-)

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    5. Tim, I expect they have a positive effect on reducing recoil and helping hold the rifle on target. The Russians went to the trouble of designing a muzzle brake on the SVT-40, and the Germans put them on some of the early self loaders Mauser designed.

      Other than the ill fated experiment with the muzzle brake I put on my Ruger Mini-14 (which ended with the first shot) I haven't done much with them.

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  4. I missed my chance to get a mosin-nagant when they were giving them away. Didn't have a spare $100 to my name at the time. Very happy with my SKS as it's a fun gun to plink with. Can't belive what they are going for these days either.

    I'm still seeing guns, some in horrible shape, going for too much money. There are some deals, but usually it's someone who needs cash quick.

    I was offered a buddy's complete and extensive handgun collection for $25. He was getting divorced and his wife said "sell your guns and we'll split the money."

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    1. I'm afraid the days of moderately priced surplus guns are gone, unless, as you say, you come up on a deal. I feel for your friend. At least he had it in mind to get his guns to someone who would appreciate and care for them. I suppose the idea of keeping his money out of the hands of his ex-wife would have been attractive too. Both of my brothers went through horrific divorces after having been married for 20 years and 21 years respectively.

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  5. Great Post. I trust the Russians and ISIS like I trust the idiot in DC. This may get me in trouble. but if the Idiot is away, could he be coupe out of office??? By the good guys ???

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    1. Rob, we don't have to trust ISIS, we know exactly what they are. The Russians aren't that different from us. It's just that they were the Boogy Man for more than 70 years here. But they felt the same way about us. There's an old Russian joke that goes like this:

      In the event of an American nuclear attack, wrap yourself in a bed sheet and walk slowly to the cemetary.

      Why walk slowly?

      So as to avoid causing a panic.


      As for Blowjama, I always remember what happened to the Romans after Julius Caesar usurped power from the Roman Senate. The Republic, with all it's faults, was better than the Empire under the "bad" Emperors. That's one reason I worry so much about the way Obama is getting away with cutting our Congress out of their rightful place in decision making and governing the country. He not only behaves like a Nero himself, but he may be setting the stage for a Caligula down the road as well.

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    2. I guess I should have said Muslims vs ISIS. After almost 7 years of his crap, we should always expect him to do the unexpected.

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    3. I agree with you Rob. I'm not big on the followers of Allah either.

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  6. What really gone up in price and availability are the spam cans of 440. I was picking them up for $95 and getting free shipping at sportsman guide. They currently out and everyone else who still has it want $130.

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    1. Surplus ammunition is like hens teeth today, and when you do find it, as you rightly point out, it is prohibitively expensive .My shop bulges with wooden cases of Turkish, Yugoslavian and Romanian 8mm Mauser. I have Russian, Czech, Polish and Romanian 7.62X54. I have .308 from India, Australia, Germany, and Chile. 7.62X39, I was lucky enough to get a lot of Yugo brass cased on strippers. I even have a full wooden case of 8X56R on clips for my Austrian M1895 straight pull rifles. Virtually all of that was acquired in the late 1980's and the 1990's, prior to the reign of William the Bastard. These days I see the ammo on line sometimes but the cost is just too high. Back then, it was peanuts.

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  7. So here's more prof of how popular Mosin's are go to zazzle.com and search on Mosin Nagant. http://www.zazzle.com/mosin+nagant+gifts Also Café Press http://www.cafepress.com/+mosin-nagant+gifts. One of my favorites is "7.62x54R Rimmed For your Pleasure"

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    1. I haven't been to that web site but I will certainly check it out. I'm always looking for interesting places to visit, helps pass the time on slow days. I have a lot of those.

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  8. Harry, I think most of what they put on the "news" is just a distraction. They harp and harp and harp about such stupid stuff. Every time they run another stupid story I wonder what's really going on that they don't want us to know about.

    Although this story is probably true - recently heard Obuma on NPR saying how the US has the worst gun control laws in the world and he plans to do something about that during the remainder of his term.

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    1. Leigh, I really think distraction is the perfect word to describe the process. When there's nothing of import going on, MSM just makes something up or takes some picayune event like the Russian patrols and blows it all out of proportion.

      Obama is typical of his political class, the very idea of the "great unwashed" owning firearms drives him mad. I remember all his smooth, oily promises during his first campaign, how he touted his promise not to be a gun grabber. But all politicians seem to lie when it suits them, and apparently it always suits them.

      It's an exercise in futility as long as some Americans retain the courage to say " I won't comply." Gun grabbing has worked in countries where people allowed registration, but so far Americans have successfully opposed that . Much of the credit goes to the NRA. When you see how much the left hates the NRA, you know how much good it has done.

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  9. The problem with so much of the Russian stuff now is that it has become "Shiek" and the prices have gone sky high. When you could get a Mosin or an SKS for around a 100 $ it made sense. But now you are looking at three times that figure or more. I am getting an itch for one of the Polish P-83 Makarovs.
    http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/polish-makarov-p83-pistol-9x18-cal.html
    Now that I got my Toyota T-100 running again I might sell the Dakota and have some pocket money to scratch the itch.

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    1. Everything associated with firearms has gone up. A big part of it is the increasing interest in preparedness that has really been manifesting itself across the country in the last 5 years or so. Even the worst moon bats, when they really sit down and think over events like Katrina, have to admit that the government won't take care of them in an event like that. They also have to acknowledge that the predators will be out in force and singing Kumbaya while beating the flower drums won't phase people like the news showed acting out in Ferguson and Baltimore.

      Then too, surplus is just drying up. One of my favorite surplus magazines, that I've read for years and years, recently put out their Swan Song issue. They said they just couldn't keep turning out a magazine for the "little guy" collectors because prices were keeping people of modest means out of the hobby now. It's a shame, because many a gun owner got their start with an inexpensive surplus firearm and moved on from there.

      The Polish guns are very good based on what I have read of them. AIM carries them, Southern Ohio Guns has them, and J&G sales also offers them. I have several of the original Russian Makarovs, as well as one produced in Bulgaria and another from East Germany, so I'm looking the Polish pistol chambered in Makarov but haven't actually bought one yet.

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