“There is no real ending. It’s just the place where you stop the story.”

― Frank Herbert

Tuesday, October 6, 2015

When you read a lot of preparedness articles, you are bound to find a few very special people out there.


"There are folks out there with state-of-the-art bunkers and three-year supply caches. They are called “preppers” because they are way more prepared than you will ever be. But don’t worry about it. Because the more you have in an apocalypse, the bigger target you have painted on your back. Do you want to be guarding your dehydrated military meals from every bloodshot-eyed survivor with a shank and nothing to lose? No. Keep it simple, stay nimble."


Jenny Gottstein " How to Survive the Zombie Apocalypse and other Disasters"


Her theory is that you should keep some crackers and other supplies in a small hand carry, so you can remain "mobile." 

46 comments:

  1. She has an interesting background:

    http://thegogame.com/disaster-preparedness

    Nimble with crackers makes you the equivalent of a homeless person before you even get to the apocalypse.

    Personally, I have always liked the (difficult) strategy of hiding. But to hide, you can't have to be out scrounging around for food 24/7.

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    1. I concur. If you have no food, water, or any other essentials, you have to go out to compete for them with everyone else who took no precautions and I can't think of anything more dangerous to do in a collapse or disaster situation.

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    2. Russell, I checked that link. As I suspected she and her band of orange jump warriors have no grounding in experience of real life that I can discern from the article. The amazing thing to me is that they are apparently capable of convincing at least some organizations to pay them for their"expertise."

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  2. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    Harry' I before I forget I wanted to mention a very powerful documentary I watched on the drug cartel problems in mexico called ' Cartel Land' it was on iTunes and it was very munch worth the $4.00 rental. One of the directors involved in the documentary is Katherine Bigalow, the director or '"Zero Dark Thirty" and that movie on the guy that disarmed IED's in Iraq (cant remember the name of it)

    I gotta warn people this is real and much more brutal than 'Breaking Bad'

    Now onto our regular scheduled programming.....

    I gotta look up this Jenny Gottstein and find out what she has written. My guess is that she spends more money on starbucks every week than she spends on food storage.

    Now I gotta admit there is some logic to her thinking. I think it would be wise to have a trailer to load up some supplies and get out if there is no other choice. Mobility may be key to survival for many depending on their location, community and neighbors.

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    1. The Hurt Locker. Russell sent a link to an informative site about the author of that quote. I suspect you will find the information there both disturbing and puzzling as I did.

      We have little Mexico City forty miles from us as the crow flies, on the other side of the mountains. A sub chieftain of one of the cartels was arrested in our county, purely by accident, some time back.

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  3. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch(


    http://thegogame.com/team-building/labs/disaster-preparedness-games

    I found this when I did a search on Jenny Gottstein.

    I scanned through the stuff she wrote and listened to the youtube stuff she talked about for a few minutes.
    My conclusion is this young lady needs to go through a weeks worth of 'very, very basic training' and be embedded with one of our more remote military units in Afghanistan as a reporter so to speak for about a minimum of three months. She should eat what our grunts eat, sleep how they sleep and enjoying 'the suck' as much as our military enjoys it. Spend some time dodging IED's maybe get rattled around by a few. Get a few RPG's shot her way and get some sleep deprevation, lack of food. Lack of proper sanitation and so on.

    Jenny would figure out that this is not a game. Real zombies are cunning, intelligent and don't play by the rules. Survival also means being cold, wet, weak and underfed and finding the energy to struggle to tie a shoelace with weak, cold fingers.

    The key to real survival is having the 'inner resolve' to get through any situation no matter what.

    No one can learn that inner resolve at a one day 'zombie training camp'

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    1. It's all well and good for her and her merry men to write games about something she has no practical experience of. Where I begin to have reservations is when this theoretical and untested game theory is presented to the credulous as fact.

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  4. Back in about 1980, when I temporarily lived in a small UK village, I had a visit from a local 'civil defence' person who had come to look at my cellar. After having written down all sorts of rubbish in a notebook, he advised me that I would be going on a list, and that in a state of emergency I could expect to have a dozen people come to share the cellar with me. I told him to eff-off.

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    1. We have people here in some parts of our country who believe that the bureaucracy is entitled to dictate the allocation of personal assets in times of crisis. This is the fable of"the grasshopper and the ants" writ large. It's not valid, since everyone makes their own priorities. If I drive an old truck and use the savings to prepare for hard times, I am going to be very unenthusiastic about some pasty faced bureaucrat telling me to take care of the guy who bought a new truck and did nothing to guard against the inevitable Black Swan event.

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  5. Talk about survival lite.

    There is an argument for keeping a low profile, but this is silly.

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    1. It comes of living in a bubble and having no concept of what the real world is like outside your McMansion or penthouse.

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  6. Quite a flawed philosophy IMO. How many preppers are out there flaunting what they have? None that I know of. It goes without saying that proper OPSEC goes a long way. The author probably works for a publishing Company in San Francisco.

    And I wonder just how long you can survive on crackers :) --Troy

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    1. Most survivalists and preppers do practice OPSEC, alas some better than others as my friends have frequently reminded me after I make some "loose lips"error on the blog. She seems to assume everyone is going to fire flares or set off smoke grenades to draw attention to themselves.

      Especially wearing an orange jumpsuit. Check out the link Russell sent.

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  7. Yep. That's where I want to be. Out in the elements with my pack of clean underwear and peanut butter crackers. Keeping it simple and staying "mobile." Out with the crazies whose meds have run out. Out with those who are starving because the pizzeria is closed. And if it is February and it is Minnesota, I am dead within hours.

    Good Lord! What world do these people live in. Surely not the world of reality. I do believe I will just keep on adding to my food storage and supplies. And now if you will excuse me, I have some applesauce to can.

    Yeah, I know. Dripping with snarky sarcasm. The sad thing is that there are those who will actually follow this person's advice and it will likely get them killed.

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    1. I frequently run across people espousing theories that seem to be based entirely on theories conceived while eating potato chips on the couch and watching situation comedies on television. I think that there are a lot of people out there who have never been in a dangerous situation and so are doing their planning in a vacuum, where reality is not taken into account.

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    2. Don't worry, Vicki.

      They won't be around for long. All we have to do is stay dug-in long enough, and well armed enough, for their kind to dwindle down to zero.

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    3. The attrition rate for unarmed yuppies in orange jump suits carrying little hand bags will be appalling.

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    4. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      I will sneak up behind a Yuppie while wearing camo and go 'Boo"

      The yuppie will drop his handbag and run.

      I will get some goodies.

      it would better than Holloween.

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  8. "Her theory is that you should keep some crackers and other supplies in a small hand carry, so you can remain "mobile." "..and thereby become one of those "bloodshot-eyed survivors with a shank and nothing to lose".

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    1. I don't think she sees the flaw in her logic. Take a look at the link Russell sent in the first comment. Prepare to be amazed.

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  9. Well, this target has some nimble bullets. Simple enough?

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    1. The concept of self defense does not appear to be taken into consideration in her world view.

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  10. I think everyone has a "scenario" in their minds. My business partner witnessed an exercise in cutting off access to the highway here one night. (3AM or so, we are very much night owls). Plus, after a bank robbery the cops shot down the interstate (Putting hundreds of people at risk) in the middle of the day...Where mobility would be nice, opfor has a plan for that. I know a LOT of back roads etc, but there will be choke points no matter what.
    I have a medium and long term plan to relocate. and I hope I can have it finished by the first of the year... At that point, I will be settled, and remote enough (I pray) to be able to be enough off the beaten path to escape notice...I have advanced the timeline some, but not all is in my hands...Scary times we live in no? But being here is a non starter. I love Maryland, it is a beautiful place, but the hive dwellers have over run, and converted it to a "Progressive Paradise" It is a target rich environment, but I would rather use my energy elsewhere...

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    1. Relocation takes time, resources and planning on a large scale basis. Most of us can only accomplish it over a period of time, but it can be done and it sounds like you have the process well in hand. I hope you get out in time. Given the events of the last year I have revised my timeline for a real catastrophe downward.

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  11. Well, good. Liberals can go hide with their crackers and be targets for the hoards of zombies. The rest of us will survive on our preps and common sense and nimble bullets.

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    1. Take a look at the link that Russell sent in the first comment. Much that was obscure will be made clear, I promise. The young woman who wrote that article has built up her own company which"games" survivalist scenarios. I admire her initiative but I think her organization needs some depth. A few people who have actually been out in the real world would not come amiss.

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  12. Harry - i checked out Russell's link...and i was completely dumbfounded! it is not often that i have no words...but i have no words!

    i worked in one of the most liberal cities in canada for over 20 years and when it comes to stupid libtards - i thought i had met them all. not once in my career did i ever come across someone with ideas this ludicrous!!! orange jumpsuits and crackers...and people actually pay her???

    we all need to go in together and start a "gaming" business! jeesh!

    sending much love to you and M! your friend,
    kymber

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    1. I think the problem is that she is basing her plans on television shows, and not on reality.

      Some DOD people do the same thing. They do their "games" without any practical experience to base the parameters on.

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  13. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    I read all the comments and stuff.

    The one that piqued my interests was what you wrote.

    "Given the events of the last year I have revised my timeline for a real catastrophe downward"

    Okay 'Harry. I'm all ears???


    That's why I really listen (read) to what you really write. You speak from having experience and wisdom (something that is in sort supply in this world now) A great many of my friends are older than myself (makes me feel like a snot nosed brat and sometimes they tell me I am a snot nosed brat sometimes:)

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    1. CC, let me do a post on that when I have a little more time. Right now I am juggling a lot of things and it will be a week or so I think before everything settles down.

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  14. After much thought, I have discovered the biggest flaw in her plan. If "mobile" how the heck are you supposed to carry all your arms and ammunition? Oh wait, she is not planning to do that is she? Poor lady, she'll be dog food.
    Ya gotta wonder what goes thru peoples minds. I guess that is how they go through life, just wandering around, munching on crackers...

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    1. Probably raised in a silver spoon community, went to a liberal college, and thinks the whole world is one big gated community. It isn't, but she doesn't know that.

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  15. I prefer what I call "Stealth" keep a low profile, see but don't be seen. I practice it everyday. Don't seek attention. Which reminds me I need to do my brakes on my van. Starting to be too loud.....She goes to show you there are plenty of nuts still on the tree of life, or sitting around the circle of life...Whatever.....snickering

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    1. There are , indeed. Too bad so many of them make decisions for the rest of us.

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  16. Hmmm...Bunker=safe and cache=fed. Nimble=young woman; rape me, kill me, take all I have!?

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    1. I would say that's a very accurate assessment. She's seriously out of tune with reality. However, her "gaming disaster" business seems to be doing well with the corporate world so there's no telling how much of it is what she really thinks and how much is tailored to her clients. People don't pay to hear the truth, they pay to hear what they want to hear.

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  17. Don't know if you have seen it but here is a good account of what happened in a real SHTF scenario.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/040249_bosnia_preppers_survival_strategies.html#

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    1. I'll take a look at that this afternoon. The day (Sunday) is already pretty much allocated but I should have some "me" time this evening. Especially if it is still raining here.

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  18. Mobile is well and good if you have fuel, open roads, no crazies to deal with, a vehicle that will run, or even boots that will take heavy use....but let's face it being on foot requires energy....I much prefer the idea of low profile, quiet preparedness and the ability to deal with problems in the harsh light of day.

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    1. I think she should read "The Road." That would give her a new perspective on tip toeing through the tulips.

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  19. If more people were like her the population would dwindle quickly. But one of the things she does stress is teambuilding. I think this is something that preppers need to really work on. While most of us prefer our solitude, we know that we need to have a group. Have you worked with your group? Max in Colorado Springs just spent a day shooting with a group of people and found it to be gratifying and annoying. If a SHTF situation arises we need to keep our group working together and not get annoyed. It's really hard to do. Have you tried it for any length of time?

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