Listening to Savage tonight, I had not thought of this before but it made sense when he said "Islam means submission...not just for islamists but for the entire world". If you don't submit, you will be killed. Period.And I understand Barry had a whole group of "submitters" visiting the White House today. Not a single mention of the attacks in Europe or the U.S. was made. --Troy
I'm beginning to wonder if we could lose this war. Europe is probably too far gone to save. We are losing the initiative here, and Clinton has already promised to increase Barack Hussein's quota of Moslem immigrants by five hundred percent. I read a article today that predicted a Clinton presidency and a House and Senate dominated by Democrats and Quisling Republicans. A Supreme Court with four Clinton appointees added to the current sitting Bolsheviks. If that happens, Islam can win in this country, just as it has done in Europe. As K.Khan said when queried, "Sharia outweighs the Constitution."
Time to start up The Crusades again.....
In the unlikely event Trump wins, it might not be too late. If Clinton wins, better start memorizing the Koran.
Let's wait and see. It's come out that they were front loading those polls that gave her a 10 point lead.
No, Harry....If Clinton wins, lock and load. We will not submit to a pagan god's perverted religion. The difference between us and the rest of the world is that we are well armed. We will not kneel to be decapitated.
Matt, I'm not paying much attention to the polls so much as I am just looking at demographics. Blacks and Hispanics will vote for Hillary, by and large. Both groups have a vested interest in doing so. Based on what I'm reading on line, and on what my kids tell me, women and young people will lean more towards Hillary than Trump when the numbers come in. Then there's the fact that Donald Trump seems absolutely determined to alienate the general middle of the ground public. It's like he doesn't understand that this is not a game show, and that he can't fire anyone he doesn't particularly like. Then there's the hatchet job the media is doing on him, outright lies, making up stories with no sources at all. At the same time, the media gives Obama and Hillary a pass. Yesterday this ransom story came out. ABC did 22 seconds on it, towards the end of the broadcast, and that was Martha Raditz parroting the White House lie that the arrival of a plane load of cash and the departure of the Iranians being held hostage being simultaneous was completely serendipitous.Then it doesn't help that his own party machinery is doing all it can to keep Trump from winning. McCain and Ryan, who did as much damage to Trumps campaign as they could, are now whining because he didn't endorse their reelection bids. The list of Republican party hacks who are campaigning for Hillary grows longer every day. I look at the big states electoral wise he has to win, and when I cross off the "always vote Democrat" states, I don't see it happening. I'd love to be wrong. Maybe something will happen between now and November that will change the equation. Some dramatic event so big and so repugnant that even the MSM can't spin it or hide it. That looks to me like the only hope.
Tewshooz, the only kind of resistance to a Clinton regime I can envision is passive. I was thinking about this last night, and I can't see a scenario where any other kind of resistance would occur. A large number of people would have to be willing to do violence to do any good, and someone would have to inspire them and direct them. I'm not sure even how a campaign against the government would go. Most novel scenarios just start out after a government collapse, which conveniently eliminates the question of how to get rid of an evil government.I suppose a resistance movement could attack individuals associated with the government, but if they did it randomly they would probably kill as many good people as bad. The government is, after all, the biggest employer in the country. People could attack individuals who belong to the Democratic party, but the underlings really don't have any influence on events, and the higher ups would be no more accessible than they are now. People in the Democratic party who want to take guns from the populace make sure they themselves are well protected by men with guns.I guess my point is, I don't know how to make a revolution. I think if Hillary wins, and starts creating an even more repressive society than the one we live in, some people will comply against their will, some people will be ecstatic, most people won't care, some will go underground, and that will be that. If anybody can think of a game plan , hypothetical of course ;-) that could play out to advantage after a Hillary victory, I'd be delighted to hear it. The only one I can come up with that would have a ghost of chance is a military coup, and in this country that just isn't going to happen.
Just found this tonight and wanted to share. Make of it what you will. It's nothing we haven't suspected for a long time.http://tinyurl.com/h6kkhw3
Let me take a look.
Harry, I just got word that this was a fake news article. Sorry for the confusion. The above is not to be confused with the story going around about the ATF that reported is true.http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/04/judge-andrew-napolitano-report-atf-stockpiling-gun-owner-info
That happens with the internet. I published something on here once that turned out to be totally fabricated. I don't remember the exact circumstances, but it was a "news article" that was made up but looked real. I had to do a little retraction.
I'm sure most everyone has seen the quote attributed to Mark Twain..."If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it."I just can't see where the Clinton camp will allow a fair and honest election. She wants a coronation. And I believe she will get it, by fair means or foul. Mostly foul. I really hope I am wrong.
I don't think you are wrong. This whole evolution has been rigged from the start, both by the Democratic and Republican machines, and by the main stream media. I don't think you are wrong at all, but like you, I am looking for some miraculous Black Swan event to discredit Clinton and her drones.
Hey Harry,(captaincrunch)I don't think islam will take hold in our country and take over.We are a selfish, hedonistic people. The vast majority of Americans want excesses galore, porn, rock music, etc. etc.islam wants to take away freedoms and control everything. That wont work out too well.The problem, I fear we will have is with daily terror attacks, anarchy etc, just like in Europe.things may get real bad but at a certain point it will backfire on the islamists.
My concern is this. The vast majority of Americans wouldn't want anything to do with Islam, I agree. But the vast majority of people living in the "Caliphate" today probably don't want anything to do with the ISIS brand of Islam, yet that isn't helping them any. They still have to toe the line or lose their heads.Islam is growing by leaps and bounds in America, while Christianity is declining precipitously. The actual numbers vary depending on who and what you read, but there's no denying the trend. When I first heard people say that Obama was a secret Moslem, I laughed. I'm not laughing now. If we import tens of thousands of individuals who hold a belief system that is entirely alien to our own, and who are aggressive in spreading their belief system, who's to say what can happen. I think back to when the first Europeans landed in North America and the fact that they must not have seemed to be much of a threat to the Indians.Most people are sheep, pure and simple. They do what they're told. They're afraid to do otherwise. It never occurs to them to do otherwise. So if we get Islam calling the shots, then we'll see a lot of beards and hijabs out there on the street.The only place I can think of where Islamic radicalism has been resisted with any real effect in modern times is Israel. And they live in a state of constant war, in an armed camp. I guess you could say the Serbs have successfully resisted Islam, for hundreds of years, but that's a state of perpetual war as well.There's no doubt you are right about the degradation of security in the United States. Compared to what's coming if Clinton gets elected, the atrocities that have occurred here so far haven't even been a warm up to the main event.The kind of people you describe (and I agree with your description) are not the kind of people to take a strong stand against anything, let alone a terrifying force bent on eradicating anyone who resists them. Remember the scene in "Kingdom of Heaven" where the Bishop says "convert to Islam now, repent later!" There it is.
Hey Harry,(captaincrunch)There is a news, commentary and comedy show on YouTube called 'The Young Turks'I really don't want them, I consider them Bernie sanders fans and fools as well pro-Islamic propaganda.Now I was reading some stuff on the Armenian Genocide in Turkey (pre-WW1) The political group that ran Turkey was known as 'The Young Turks' interesting.I found this on Wikipedia "Young Turk" is now used to signify "a progressive, revolutionary, or rebellious member of an organization, political party, etc, esp one agitating for radical reform" and various groups in different countries have been named Young Turks because of their rebellious or revolutionary nature.more interesting......Now that I know what influenced the thinking of the idiots on the YouTube show. Great. I dislike them more now than I did before.When I have time I will do more research on the Aremenian Genocide since it may be a precursor to what will happen in the future.I really do hope that there is some kind a 'violent military coup' in Turkey and Erdogrown and his son are disposed of by the Constitutional opposition military forces.
I'm afraid Turkey is a lost cause. Erdogon has used the coupe as an opportunity to extirpate everyone who even vaguely disagreed with him. It isn't being reported here because all the news can think of is running down Trump, but the European press is reporting ghastly atrocities taking place in Turkey against anyone who might resist the new theocracy Erdogan is installing. Really bad stuff.Turkey is well on the way to becoming the next Iran. The expression Young Turks originated in Turkey during the last years of the Ottoman Empire. They wanted a modern, secular Turkey. Mustafa Kemal Attaturk was one of them. I think that's the origin of the phrase.
agreed, yet our 'leader' would rather play golf
Or ride his little bicycle and wear his little plastic helmet.