Sunday, January 28, 2018

Forted up. Mosin Nagants are getting scarce. Spoiled food. Some that preserved well over time. Transmitting from the Deep Woods.

   Sunday morning.  Dreary weather outside, with rain and fog.  Nice enough inside though, and we aren't planning on going out today anyway.

No one has come up with any sources of 7.5 French surplus military ammo, which isn't a big surprise as there just may not be any more of it out there.

If I do hear of any, I'll be sure and let the people know who have expressed an interest in obtaining some for themselves.  There are still a good many French Mas 1936 rifles out there in collectors hands.  You can buy Privi partisan commercial 7.5 French for those, the brass is reloadable and there's lots of load data for the round.

It's only the 1949/56 that needs the military surplus stuff.

Just a word about something some of you may be looking for.  The latest CH Kadels catalog has replica Mosin Nagant slings at a good price.

In the little video at the end of the post, I got one of my Mosin Nagant rifles to show an original sling and how it attaches to the rifle, so I won't go into a lot of detail here.  Just wanted to bring this to the attention of Mosin owners, because the dog collar slings are very hard to find these days.

Below is a link to the slings on the CH Kadels page:

Mosin Nagant Rifle Slings.

Ruminations on the vanishing Mosin Nagant Rifles:

Twenty years ago, nobody really wanted Mosin-Nagants. They were a good, well built rifle but they looked "funny" to Americans.  That's not a new phenomenon. When we sent U.S. Army troops to fight the "Reds" in 1918, they had to leave their Springfield M1903 rifles in Europe and were equipped with Remington built Mosin-Nagant 1891 rifles. They didn't like them then, either.

So, the rifles were really cheap.  The ammunition was too, there were literally tons of it on the market in the U.S.

When someone did this meme, it was absolutely true.

But those days are gone now.  Prices are three or four times what they were then, and that's with no accessories.

Still, the guns are out there. 

The original Model 1891's are scarce, and are collectors items.  I have one, I know CC has one, but I don't know anyone else that does.  That's because most "shooters" won't spend the money on a rare firearm, and I don't know that many "pure collectors" ,who buy guns as investments and never fire them.

Model 1891

The Model 1891/30 is the most common gun.  They are going for about $300.00 now through dealers, in very good condition.  Some can turn up cheaper in good condition, if you are in the right place at the right time.

Model 1891/30
The Model 1938 is a carbine version with no bayonet.  It will rattle the fillings right out of your teeth, and if you don't use a shooting jacket you may wind up with bruises. On the other hand, it's light, handy, and while it has a bad kick and muzzle flash, it still delivers a full power 7.62X54R round on target.
Model 1938

The Model 1944 is a Model 1938 with a side folding bayonet.

Model 1944

With the exception of the Model 1891/30,  these guns are all pretty much gone now, because collectors bought them up. I have two of the Model 1938's, one of which used to be my truck gun for a long time.  I bought several of the Model 1944 guns when they were on sale , from AIM, SOG, and at a gun store in Dalton, Georgia.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have any of them because I wouldn't pay the prices sellers are asking now.

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Well, hell!
A follow up on long term storage of UTZ pub mix.

I like it, it's a great "comfort food" and I've stored it before without problems. But this time, when I opened one from the last case, it had gone rancid.

All of them were spoiled, and in only a few months time. The containers can still be used, and the food itself we are feeding to the dogs. They like the salt and the fat in it.  I ate some of it anyway, and it didn't make me sick. But my wife says the shortening they used in it has gone bad. It does stink and I decided it just wasn't worth eating it, particularly as the dogs like it. I give them some in their bowls every day.

I don't know why this went bad and the preceding supplies didn't. They were all stored exactly the same, and this batch wasn't stored anywhere near as long as the others.

On the other hand.....

 Last night I opened up a case of these that have been down in the storage room for more than two years.

They were just as fresh as they day they were made. Sealed in aluminum foil packages, and stored in a cool, dry and dark space, they are fine.

I buy these at Christmas time, at a department store in a different county.  This year, they didn't have any so I opened a new case .  I'm glad the chocolate made it through that time period OK.  I didn't want to have to freeze them.

Here's something else I opened a can of recently that was still fresh and good. They'd been stored out in the climate controlled part of the barn, in a cardboard box, for four years.

I like these crackers with cheese or butter.  They're really intended for people who live on sail boats, but given their long storage life, and the low cost, they work for me. The cans are all metal and make good storage containers.

Of course, Lisa's "hard tack" is way better than these, but you can't have everything!

Fish Medication:

We recently went to the farmer's depot, and bought Amoxicillin which they had on hand for treating farm animals. It was expensive, $39.00 plus 7% tax for 50 caplets.  However, you can buy it from Walmart, on line, 100 capsules for $20.00.   Might be worth getting some for the shelf.

We used it to treat some kittens that were nearly at death's doorstep with what looked like pneumonia. They got well.  We also used it to treat "Miss Bitey", my cat , who had a terrible respiratory infection. It cured her.

Can't hurt to have it in your medical supplies:

We have pretty good insurance, and we tootle to the doctor if we need medicine. But the day may come when there is no doctor. "Just sayin'" as the expression goes.

Thought for  the Day:

A little music:

Transmitting from the Deep Woods:


  1. I wish I could find a Mosin for 65$.... all the ones I see come though at my local Cabelas are 300$. Same goes for the SKS. With my bad eyes those old military sights are useless anyhow, so they would not be much use. I do check once a week for any cheap bottom-feeder deals but have not found any lately. The only good deals I have found lately are usually old H&R or Rossi Single shots. But even the H&Rs are now touching 300$ as they are no longer made. Cabelas got in a mess of 1950s production Walther and Manurhin PPs this week, but they are all beat to snot like someone dragged them across pavement and they still are priced at 650$ each.

    1. I'm afraid the Golden Days of surplus military firearms and ammunition are rapidly receding into the past. I just got my renewal paperwork from ATF in the mail for my Curio and Relics license which expires in a few months. I have had one since 1986. But I am giving serious consideration to not renewing it. I used to get wonderful catalogs in the mail from the surplus wholesalers, but now they are all "on line" and you don't need a license to access them. I don't really buy many guns with the license any more, unless something truly extraordinary comes along. I just wish I had bought more guns back when they were plentiful.๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

  2. Thank you Harry for more inspiration for me to paint! :)

    That was a good lesson for me on Mosin Nagants. I'm not familiar with guns at all, but I'm learning! :) The pub mix looks good, too bad it went bad. I often make a homemade type of mix like that with pretzels, different cereals like Cheerios and Shreddies and cheesy stuff like "Goldfish". I love to munch on that during the day. The vanilla creme drops look yummy! I think that food storage and preservation is so important. Right now I'm just at the water-bath canning stage of it all. We've already gone through more than half the 60 pounds of tomatoes I canned in September...and the apple sauce too - we give that mostly to the dogs to "hide" their pills. I'm very thankful I did all that, it saved so much money. We also have lots of cherries that we preserved last summer in brandy. Those are fun to open up once in a while!

    That's a great idea about the fish medicine. You're right, it's not a bad idea at all to have some on hand.

    Great video!! :) It's nice to see you! We had a fire going yesterday while we sipped hot chocolate, it is very warming and cozy! I'm so glad your wife is doing better!

    1. Rain, I wish I could paint and do my own artwork like you, but I have no artistic talent. I really like your paintings on your blog, especially ๐Ÿง

      I am sure you could own a Mosin Nagant up there in Canada. They are very good rifles and the ammo is commercially produced. Everyone who lives out in the forest needs a decent rifle. You never know what the day (or night) is going to bring.

      In one of the best History Channel docudramas I ever saw, the protagonist survives all sorts of harrowing experiences, only to die years later from infection after getting a simple cut on his hand. That always stuck in my mind.๐Ÿ˜ท

      I'm glad you are all cosy up there. The outside pictures you posted were impressive, made me realize just how much snow had fallen in your area.

    2. Thanks Harry :) I love to paint, it's a relaxing escape for me :) Especially in winter when the cabin fever starts to set in!

    3. I had a high school teacher who survived being shot, grenaded, hit with rocks, poisoning while a journalist during the Korean War.

      Came back, stepped on a piece of metal, lost his foot a week later from gangrene.

      Meds, especially antibiotics, are good. There are all sorts of survival books that talk about using horse or fish meds in SHTF situations.

    4. I think it's a given precept in the survivalist and prepper communities. There are lots of articles out there on it. However, you have to be discreet in how you discuss things like that. I always remember that there's always the "ten percent who don't get the word." In other words, there a people who will do stupid things, and then turn around and blame somebody else because that somebody said something that started their faulty thought processes going. Even the articles written by Doctors always have some kind of disclaimer to cover their derrieres.

    5. Rain, I think art is a great outlet for a person's energies. I know my son gets a lot of enjoyment from his painting, and derives a lot of satisfaction from it at the same time he is unknowingly getting stress relief as well.

      I do wish I could paint. But I can't. We all have talents of one kind or another, but the Muse passed me by.

  3. I really like the video blog part of the show. I think you've hit on something with it...I read a buncha preparedness blogs and virtually no one does the vlog. Keep it up.

    1. I think most people are too cautious to do that. I've had a concealed carry permit, a Curio and Relics license, and been a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and NRA for so long I don't think I would be able to hide out if the Schumerites take over anyway. Not to mention all the letters I've written to obnoxious politicians over the years.๐Ÿ˜ 

  4. Sorry your pub mix went rancid. Perhaps the oil was not fresh when the batch was prepared. I have stored various chocolates for years by vacuum sealing in bags or mason jars. So far, I have never had any go bad.
    I was not aware that Walmart sold fish antibiotics. I have some stored away in the fridge. I bought them from a vet supplier online. I think I will restock my supply from Walmart. Thanks for the tip.
    The flu is still going strong in my area. I ordered some more elderberry juice. From reports that I have read, it is supposed to be the best for fighting viruses.
    Glad to hear that M is feeling better. Jana

    1. Jana,I found your comment in the spam folder this morning. I have no inkling of why it got in there, but so did four others.๐Ÿ˜•

      This is the first time I've had something like this happen with sealed food. Other than some cornmeal which is kind of different.

      There's just about nothing you can't get on line from Wal-Mart, and if you order enough things at once the shipping is free.๐Ÿ˜€

      I've heard that elderberry juice is good for the flu. Where do you get yours from?

      Yes, we are getting back to normal, other than the fact that I'm even less confident in our local hospital than I was, and that's saying something.

  5. Rancidity is a major problem for manufacturers. There are many causes and it's hard to identify exactly what it may be. A relative owns a pet food business and had a hell of a time a couple of years ago. It could have been ingredients or any number of processes along the way. Turned out that some food was getting stuck in the dryer, turning rancid and then contaminating the next batch. Chances are your food was rancid when you bought it.

    1. Loren, I appreciate your taking the time to comment, I have been genuinely perplexed over this. What particularly irked me was that I didn't do a thing different but this batch went bad. Now I see it's not something associated with my procedures. ๐Ÿ˜€

    2. Harry,

      I would get rid of any food that's rancid, and not feed it to your animals. As for the antibiotics for animals,I never hurts to have extra for your first aide kits especially when the SHTF.

    3. Well, the dogs eat dead possums and such they find in the woods, and nary a dead chicken goes ungobbled. But you could be right, as the bacteria in rancid food might be different than in dead chickens and other carrion.

      I keep a good stash of antibiotics here, and some good books and magazine articles that tell me how to use them.

  6. anything with grease can become rancid.
    see if you can find like items with no fat. should keep indefinitely, like hard tack. of course you can take a few days and make your own. good to experiment while you can.

    1. Well, I really like things like the pub mix, but perhaps I should just accept that certain random lots are going to "go off." It isn't really wasted, as long as the dogs will eat it, and I imagine if I crumbled it up, the chickens would eat it. They are not particular about what they eat, not at all! As you say, it's all a matter of experimentation, when you come right down to it.

  7. Harry, I always enjoy your posts. My son found a bottle of BBQ sauce he bought a year ago. Looked at the date, said its no good, Tossed it out. I told him its in a plastic bottle its fine. Didn't listen to me, Oh well his dime. I think the snack mix went bad, as one of the ingredients was border line when the factory made that batch.

    1. Rob, lots of people don't realize that the "best by" date and "use by" dates have zip to do with how long the product remains good. It has more to do with when the stuff gets removed from the shelves than anything else.

      I think you are right. I suppose a certain percentage of even your trusted long term storage food is going to go bad on you. Lots can happen to it before it ever leaves the factory, and more in transit. Usually, even if I can't eat the stuff I have animals who gladly will.

  8. Haha, I love your cat's name!

    I've had stuff go rancid like that too. Frustrating. I can't bring myself to eat it once it gets way - that smell! Although the chickens don't seem to care. I need to make some more hard tack. I still want to try some different flavors. I made jalapeno jelly the other weekend. It's really good on tortilla chips. The home canned chicken soup I made last summer has gone over really well with the boys this winter and I will definitely be doing another batch when it runs out.

    1. She's a "downs syndrome" cat. Her mom knew there was something wrong with her when she was born, and abandoned her. I found her under a downed tree. Bottle raised her and now she lives in the apartment with the ferrets, because the house cats in the main house hate her and are really mean to her. The ferrets just accept her as another resident.

      She's named after the cat in a movie I like.

      Your hard tack was wonderful. It was so good fried with butter. The Horatio Hornblower books about a Napoleonic naval officer have lots of ways to eat hard tack in the story lines, and I tried several of them with the hardtack you sent me.Good stuff! Better than crackers, or commercial "ships bread."

      I envy all the families where the woman knows how to can, it seems like a dying art these days. But some ladies are still learning how. A few years ago, a British lady sent me a book on medicines, and in return I sent her a "Ball canning guide", and now she cans a lot of things.

      I got really, really sick once when we bought a "butt roast" and then my wife said it was bad. But I paid for it and I decided it wasn't. It was, though. :-(

  9. It's a shame that there aren't any good and cheap rifles on the market anymore. At least I don't know of any. Of course, I'm pretty cheap, so other people may think a $300 rife is inexpensive.

    1. It IS a shame. The surplus gun hobby was really great, but now middle class people have been priced out of it and the selection from wholesalers is not good. $300 for a surplus rifle is too high, unless you are a collector, and not just a shooter. I think of myself as a shooter.

  10. My .02. There are still a lot of Mosins out there it’s just that at $300-400 I think (at least in my AO) sellers outnumber buyers. It doesn’t help that in that general price range you can get some pretty solid brand new deer rifles. Buying a hundred year old gun built by illiterate drunk peasants when you could have a Savage or Remington with a scope is a hard sell.

    Also the cheap ammo for those guns has started to dry up.

    I don’t regret missing that boat. Now the $100 sks boat I am annoyed at myself about. A couple for truck/ knock around guns and a few in a cache somewhere would be great.

    1. I agree. Who wants to fork out $300 when they bought the same guns for around $40.00 before. Even though twenty or thirty years ago, $40.00 bought a lot more than it does now.

      The cheap ammo was one of the most positive aspects , and now that too is just about gone, thanks to George Bush and his "let's save the Ukraine" thing, among other issues.

      I'd have bought a lot more of the guns when they were dirt cheap, if I had known what was coming. Of course, I'd have bought Apple back when it went public too......

  11. Hey Mr Flashman;

    I enjoyed your talking about the Mosin Nagant, I own a "carbine" version that was made in 1942, then after the great patriotic war, was given to the Yugoslavs that turned them into carbines and shoved them into warehouses. I picked mine up along with 2 enfields for less than $80 at Roses in Griffin Georgia in the 90's. I kinda wished I picked up a few more but that also was the "salad days" for my marriage and money was tight. Still have all 3 of them and they were in surprisingly good condition.

    1. MG, I used to haunt the Roses in our area. I remember driving over there in a big snow storm to pick up some Enfield MK 111 rifles I had on layaway.

      I think,from your description, you may have a gun that's sometimes called the 1891/59. If so it's relatively rare.

      I know what you mean about money being hard to come by back then. When a person is younger they have more expenses and less disposable income. Sorry for the delay in posting your comment. I found five comments in the spam folder when I checked it this morning.๐Ÿ˜ž

  12. Harry Hi, Read your blog every day, really interesting content and a great blog. Can you contact me at the email supplied. I am needing the source of a military gun paste my dad used as a gunsmith years ago. You have contacts but I don't have an offline email address.
    Alvin 45

    1. Alvin, I will be glad to help if I can, and if I can't perhaps someone who visits here can. I can't see the header of your comment though, so I can't get an email address off it. If you can email me at we can get in touch . If email is a problem just reply to this comment with a full message.