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― Frank Herbert

Sunday, June 15, 2014

The best thing about leaving home is getting back.


To get to the town we were headed for,  you have to go along a river valley. The road runs along the river, so it's very twisty and winding.  We had the air on so the windows were rolled up, and as frequently happens my wife got carsick.

So, we had to pull over and let her walk around for awhile.


Between the humidity and the ambient temperature it was pretty warm under all those trees. Eventually we loaded back up and made our way to the discount grocery store.


We spent just about forty dollars today, and came away with the jeep packed full.  Among the things I really liked, we got number 10 cans of green peas (my favorite vegetable) for two dollars apiece. We got huge bags of potato patties for a dollar and a half a bag.  The rest of it was just "this and that " kind of things, mostly canned goods.  I can get corned beef hash there for a dollar a can,  roast beef for $1.89 a can,  and all sorts of soups and stews at a good price. There wasn't anything in the way of a good bargain on sausage or beef hot dogs, but that's the way it is. You take what they have on the shelf and come back next time.


On the way out I saw this poster for the ham radio guys up there. They are gearing up for establishing emergency nets.  This town in NC is "rough as a cob"  but they are tough people and they are pretty well organized.  Lots of nice looking women, too. Especially on a Sunday, because the ladies are wearing their best dresses and jewelry, and are all made up.  North Carolina has a reputation for women who have a lot of strength, so if you wanted a good "collapse" wife that would be a place to get one. Mine is from Mississippi and they are good partners in difficult times too.

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  1. Oh how I wish we had a discount grocery store like that one. A 25 oz. can of corned beef hash at the grocery here is $3.89. It's getting so that even Sam's Club isn't that much cheaper in prices from the regular grocery stores.

    Most...not all...but most of the women I see here seem to be afraid to get their hands dirty, terrified they might sweat or break a nail. They would be worse than useless in a collapse situation. Unless they happen to be farm girls. They tend to keep their heads about them in a crisis and they know how to work.

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    1. Food is very expensive here as well. Walmart has the cheapest prices, but a can of corned beef hash is over two dollars, and a can of roast beef is almost four. The discount grocery store is a day trip for us, so we get most of our supplies at Walmart, but when we do go over the state line we load up on the good things they have. We used to go often, because the pet store where I buy ferret supplies is there. But now that we only have three ferrets, and not seven, the food lasts a lot longer. I'd rather have my ferrets back than save money on their food, but nobody lives forever. Not even ferrets.

      I guess I've been spoiled a bit, because the women I communicate with are all ladies such as yourself. They aren't all survivalists or preppers, but they are level headed, from the young ones with kids to the older women. I never come into contact with any others, except store clerks and I'm not much of a conversationalist. So I'm thinking most women are like Outback Tania, or Kymber, or you, or Glock Mom, or the other women whose blogs I read, and I guess when you think about it, that's a skewed perception on my part. My wife was a missionaries daughter and grew up being self reliant. She's been a great partner for me these many years.

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  2. I never cease to be amazed at the prices you pay for goods at these discount stores,
    here in NSW food can be expensive and we have nothing like the store mentioned above. A couple of years ago Costco opened it's first store in Australia but there are not many of them around and you have to buy a lot to make any good savings.

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    1. Hey, I got the pictures. Looks like a good bunch of guys at the shoot. If you lived here you could teach me how to shoot my black powder Hawkin and my Colt Army revolver. They're just wall hangers now.

      Some people won't shop at discount stores because they are too hoity toity. If I can get good merchandise for a good price at a discount store, I'm all for it. The food is all name brand, the same items I'd by at Walmart or our other grocery store. Just a whole lot cheaper!

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    2. Glad you like the pictures Harry, I will send you a separate account of the the camp shortly. I will try and set down some simple instructions for you on how to shoot the Hawken and I will ask a friend from the club about the Colt (I know the basics for BP pistol but do not shoot them as you have to comply with the same rigmarole as if you had a modern 9mm here!!).

      I found out the hard way that much that is written about shooting ML rifles is just padding out the book and making it seem harder than it really is. Especially the sections about cleaning, it is much easier than everyone makes out, I wasted many dollars on nifty cleaning systems for muzzle loaders only to find out that all you need is a cleaning rod and patches and solvent, just like the old timers used!

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    3. I went to the range with this guy once, he was going to show me how to shoot the Hawkins. But it seemed like everything you did, if you did it just a little off, you were going to blow your face off. Finally he was telling me about putting the powder down the barrel and pushing the patch down and he said "don't let your hand get over the muzzle or if it goes off accidentally it will blow a hole through your hand." I decided that black powder shooting wasn't my cup of tea. But I hate having a couple of weapons I can't operate because I don't know how!

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    4. Some people like to really play up the possible dangers involved with black powder, if you follow the basic safety rules it is as safe as any other type of shooting. In 30 years I have never witnessed a ML discharge whilst loading, I have heard of one incident in Victoria of this happening and the bloke did receive some serious injuries but for the life of me I can't explain how his ML went off during loading. They are not like a large bore cannon, when you have fired a shot there is no unburnt powder left in the breech and it is impossible for any embers etc. to still be down there. You are far more likely to forget to load powder before the ball!, I have also seen a few ramrods fired down range as well!

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  3. None of the wholesale grocery places around here anywhere close but I am sure there is one in day trip range if I looked. I should look into it and start buying more canned stuff in bulk. Just something I never started I guess.

    What I found with my Hawkins is that there are many ways to do it "not quite right" but not that many that really hurt the weapon in any way. Forgetting your powder charge would suck but can be recovered from. I saw an idiot one time get in an argument with another guy and put four charges from his measure into his rifle then the ball and fire it off to prove you couldn't burst the barrel He claimed you could put powder up to the end of the barrel and then stick a ball in with the starter rod and still not harm anything. Never had the guts to try it myself :)

    Now I did see a friend blow his arm off with a replica Medieval hand cannon when he tried shooting an avocado out of it and it got hung in the tube.

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    1. Well, even with firearms made from modern steel it is foolhardy to stress them to their limits like that. I once fired a double charge (170 grains of BP) from my flintlock rifle by accident, someone asked me for some help on the firing line & I forgot I had already loaded the powder, lets just say I have never made that mistake again! To fire four charges is pretty much a proof charge for the barrel, I bet he had a good bruise on his shoulder.

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    2. As I remember it he put something between the stock and his shoulder. I didn't know the guy personally but he was at the club range when I happened to be there one day. The next meeting they passed a new rule about over loading the MZ's too lol. I have never used a flintlock but I know I have fired my cap on a half or maybe even lower charge once. It barely made the ball come out the barrel. I have forgot my patches a couple times and yes I admit it I fired my ramrod once too but I was a kid and being stupid then.

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  4. From my anecdotal observation Black Powder and it's modern equivalents like Pyrodex are a lot less sensitive/ dangerous than modern smokeless powder. An extra few grains is likely not going to be an issue.

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    1. Muzzleloaders operate at much, much lower pressures than smokeless firearms. It takes a bit of work to actually blow one up...BUT....thats no excuse for being sloppy.

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    2. Shooting an avocado? Somehow or other that's something I never gave any thought to. I know from reading about the civil war that people got all worked up and put as many as five or six loads in a musket because they thought they were firing the weapon but it wasn't discharging.

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  5. Car sickness and humidity cannot be good.....

    HOW CAN YOU LIKE PEAS!!!! They are PEAS! They are the worse vegetable next to okra (ya know those great big snot filled hairy green beans). Now zucchini that's good stuff.

    What are potato patties? I've never had corned beef hash, but we love vienna sausages, so get them by the box at Costco. We have a discount grocery store in our town, but every time my Mom and I go in there we go hog wild (10 lbs. of mayo for $1.88!)

    Did you really pick your wife by state?

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    1. At Home Daughter,

      (captaincrunch)

      Yeah' I ain't big on peas either.

      Now how can any one love Vienna Sauseges:)

      I once worked at a Frieghtliner truck dealership and repair shop. I got to drive the big trucks around the lot. One day I got into a big truck to drive it into the shop and I saw a large case of those Vienna Sauages. That truck driver lived on those things. Just about grossed me out. I was in the Navy and I ate Navy food (try SOS, aka Chipped Beef) and there is no way I could eat those little grey wiener things. They look like slugs, snails or cat droppings.

      (I hope you know I was joking around with this:)

      Now finding a mate by state (hey that rymes)

      Its culture. If your a Texan, you sure would not want to date a Yankee or a flake from the state (that rymes also) of California.

      A women from Seattle may get all freaked out and hate guns. Down here in Texas. Its possible to find a women with more guns than the men she dates.

      A good southern woman can carry a baby on one hip and a Kimber 1911 .45 auto on another (men go crazy for women like that) Its because a man would know that, the women he marries will protect his children when he ain't home.

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    2. Captain crunch,
      I've never had a grey vienna sausage, but lets not get into color here.
      My Mom used to make SOS, and I hated it growing up. She made it with chopped up sandwich meat.
      I know your joking, it gave me a laugh. I was joking too.
      How dare you call Californians flakes! Heck, who am I kidding, they are.
      Kimberly

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    3. I am there with ya on the Okra (Yuck) AHD. I always say (Yuck) after I type Okra (Yuck). My wife loves the stuff and even managed to trick me into planting some this year by sneaking it into the trays of water melons I started.

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    4. Kimberly,

      I didn't pick Miriam because she was from Mississippi. She was actually picked for me by the wife of the Major I relieved at COMSTRIKFORSOUTH in Naples, Italy when I checked in there. That's the truth!

      I love peas. I eat them with butter, or in salad, or mixed in with chili. I confess, I like okra too, but I like it fried up. You've got to get some corned beef hash. It's great, you fry it in the morning for breakfast, or fry it with onions, it's delicious. However, it costs way too much now compared to what it used to be, which is why I generally only buy it at the discount grocers now. Potato patties are like hash browns, only they come in little cakes, which you fry in oil. I like bacon grease the best for frying them, but my wife uses olive oil because it's supposed to be healthier for us. Miriam likes Vienna Sausage but I don't like them much, so we keep them here at the house for her. The kids like them too when they come home.

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  6. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    As per the radio thing, I just got one of them $50.00 Beofang radio's. My first real radio.
    I got a friend that can program it from the a computer. I will use it as kinda a gmrs walkie talkie and later get a ham license maybe and get more into radio's.

    Like I said to "At Home Daughter" A good Texas women can carry a baby on one hip and a Kimber 1911 on the other.

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    1. You got a good start. I'm not doing the ham thing right now because I have enough to keep up with, although I know I should.

      My wife's dad was from Texas and her mom was from Mississippi, but the family lived in Mississippi when they weren't in Africa. Miriam graduated from Southern Miss. so I guess she is from Mississippi. I don't want to go around telling people my wife is from Nigeria, that might be confusing.

      Texas has stalwart women. All the Southern states do. I think probably Montana, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Idaho and the farming states would be ok to get a wife from. I'm not sure about New England, places like that. I kind of doubt it. The left coast might not be such a great place either in that respect. OMG. Like, Totally, fursure.

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  7. Ya all ya gotta do is pay the feed bills and stall rental for the crazy Texan Horse chicks and your in like flynn. Cept. she'll hand ya the baby and tell ya to carry it yourself.

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    1. Pioneer Preppy,

      (captaincrunch)

      That's fine, I just don't do diapers (gotta draw the line somewhere)

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    2. That's what you think, CC. Your wife would have to sleep sometime, and the kid is still going to poop when she or he feels like it. Then it's your turn in the barrel. Smell those roses!

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  8. My husband advises you to go to Field Day and they can point you to where the ham radio classes are. It would really be a benefit to you, especially when you're along up there, you can communicate all over the world or just to find out what traffic is like around your area when you have bad weather.

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    1. It wouldn't hurt me to go. Right now I use a Uniden Single Side Band base unit to communicate just around the area, but unless it's night and the skip is in, it isn't much of an area.

      I do a lot of listening on shortwave receivers, but don't own a transmitter. Short wave radio equipment is affordable. I guess I am a bit leery about taking on another hobby, but how time consuming can it be?

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  9. On the car sickness issue, I used to get car sick too and it resulted from an inner ear problem, which I still have. I have to stay focused on the road, sit with a clear view of the horizon (or be the driver) and never read while a passenger. I understand eating ginger before you travel is good or there is an OTC med, Bonine, that helps combat motion sickness. It is meclazine and can be found at any drugstore or many groceries. Sometimes you can get it at the pharmacy counter as a generic w/o a prescription.

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    1. Miriam takes Dramamine if we are going over the mountains to the South of us, because they are really bad news. But this time, since we were just going further up into the mountains, she thought she could get away with just some Benadryl, which she took for allergies. I'll get some of that Bonine, because it has to work better than what she's using now.

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  10. Harry - your posts are always awesome. the ones i like the best are when everyone chimes in on the comments section and the conversations go from one thing to another - bahahahah! being canadian, if i was a man, i know exactly which provinces i would choose my wife from! however, being a woman, i waited forever for the perfect man that everyone told me didn't exist - and then i found him! how many city boys can you drop on an island in the middle of nowhere and have him thrive?!?!?? and really become himself!!! i hate to say that he was perfect when i met him, his dad is from my same hometown and he had a celtic torque tattoo on his arm - he was charming, friendly, caring, intelligent, grew up on a farm in the city and was fishing from the age of 3! he's perfect i tell you! but don't tell him that. i have to have some leverage to keep him in line - bahahhahahaah!

    as for your wife's car sickness, have her drink some ginger tea about a half hour before you leave, you take about a 1 inch piece of fresh peeled ginger, chop it or crush it in a cup, pour boiling water over it, cover it with a plate, let it steep 10 minutes and then sip it. that always helps with my car sickness.

    the other thing i recommend is that from previous pics of her, she seems tiny. i find that if i sit on a pillow on the car/truck seat, it lifts me up a little and then things don't seem to be whizzing by my head so much.

    as for discount stores - we really don't have any on the island. food is expensive but with proper budgeting, we can have access to a lot of delicious food. i am happy to say that we have well over a year worth of food stocked and we are at the point where we only buy stuff when it's on sale. jam just found a steal of a deal on steaks and we vaccuum-sealed them and won't need to buy another for a good year. when you add that to our friends giving us lobster and rabbits, and with all of jam's fishing, plus our canned and dried goods - we are in a very fortunate situation. but again - it's all about planning and preparing.

    i hope that you and your wife had a nice time out but you are right - the best part of going to town is coming home! much love to you and yours! your friend,
    kymber

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    1. Kymber, I just typed a long reply to your comment, and when I tried to post it the stupid blogger program crashed. So I am going to try to reconstruct it.

      Miriam is short, so putting a cushion for her to sit on would probably be a good idea. I will look for one next time we go to town, probably tomorrow or Saturday.

      You and J were made for each other, right from the get go. That's a very rare combination, and you're lucky people.

      I don't think you two need a discount store, because you are so good at raising your own food, and at fishing, getting lobsters, that kind of thing. Since I don't do any of that, I need a lot of canned goods in the storerooms to feel comfortable. The Discount Store lets me get a lot of good products at a reasonable price, so I can keep my storage levels up at the maximum without going broke.

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  11. We have some good discount stores here too, particularly for canned goods. They are a little out of the way for me, so I don't go too often.
    What do you do with the beef hash? I picked some up to try (it had been marked down to 25 cents a can at my local grocery) and I've never used it before.

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    1. Corned beef hash is great for breakfast, with fried eggs and hash browns. It's also good with peas or beans, or cooked with french fries in olive oil. It's tasty, and if I could get it for twenty five cents a can I'd buy a truck load, because there are so many ways you can cook it up. We don't go over to the North Carolina side too often , it's a good long drive. But when we do, we load up.

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