“Wyrd biõ ful ãræd.”

Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Like a script for a cheap Science Fiction Channel movie.

The "wedding planning junket" is all over the news.  As I'm pretty sure everybody knows by now, one of the nurses who took care of the Liberian in Dallas got on a plane when she was ill with Ebola and flew to Cleveland, Ohio. There she mixed with who knows how many people while she did her wedding planning thing. When it came time to get back on a plane to go back to Dallas, she was sick enough to report it. Now they are flying her to Atlanta (Georgia gets all the breaks) on a government jet.

So we have news crews from NBC under voluntary quarantine who get bored and go to a restaurant for some take out.  We have nurses under voluntary observation who get on air liners. CNN's Wolf Blitzer asked a CDC spokesman today about the voluntary aspect of all this and got a bunch of mumbles. No straight reply. Seems clear to me that telling potential Typhoid Mary's to stay home, word of honor, isn't working.

Lord Obama went on the news today after all this broke to tell people not to worry. I've been hearing a lot of that, but more and more professional voices are saying "you better worry."  The World Health Organization is saying the disease is still spreading exponentially.  Our borders are still open to everybody who wants to jet in from the hot zone.

My wife is going to the store tomorrow to stock up on large quantities of the kids favorite foods. My daughter has made arrangements to borrow a horse trailer and had a hitch put on her Jeep Commander. If she has to flee with my son from the city, she isn't leaving Seamus the Rescue Horse behind.  I don't mind her bringing her lizards but I am less enthusiastic about her snake. He can live in the heated part of the barn in his tank, but he isn't coming in the house.

Since I was already working on getting ready for winter the past few months, we are in good shape. I told my wife we had plenty of food, but she wants to have a lot of the things the kids like best.  For instance, we don't buy generic pasta sauce, it has to be "Ragu."  I'm not so picky, but I don't begrudge my son and daughter their little perks.  I think my wife would be happy if a huge Ebola pandemic broke out since the kids would be coming home.  I guess you have to look on the bright side of things.



The ferrets are prepared. They have adequate provisions, and have decreed that no other ferrets can come to the mountain top until the crisis is past.

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  1. I fear this Ebola thing will get much worse. Sadly, like most things these days, a lack of leadership is going to compound the damages.
    What does anyone getting on a plane have to go through? All the TSA groping, how many people were fondled after the traveling Nurse went through "security?"
    Increasing stocks of 95 masks and clorox/Lysol here, but if it makes it out of Texas we are gonna be in bad shape all over the country.

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    1. My problem is deciding at what point everybody quits their jobs and comes on back to the mountain. The disruption of my son and daughters lives would be total, because they'd have to leave their residences and their work. But that beats being dead of a loathsome disease. I'm watching the news and trying to filter the real information from the "let's increase the ratings by scaring everyone" line.

      Once we fort up, nobody is leaving here until the disease burns itself out. Nor is anyone coming in. I don't know any other way to get by something like this. During the Great Influenza at the tale end of WW1, the only places that were spared were those in isolated locations which blocked access and didn't let anyone in, no exceptions. I'm reading "The Great Influenza" again and that's a point that comes up repeatedly. For instance, in the Pacific , some colonial governors simply shut down ship arrivals, period, and they didn't get the flu. Others tried to do "business as usual" and they got the disease on their islands. In the American plains states and the west, some counties simply sealed themselves off, blocked all the roads, and didn't let anyone in. They seem to have been successful in precluding the arrival of the flu.

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  2. Crap Harry,

    I hope the proverbial doesn't hit the fan for you up there, although as you have said you will be OK up in the mountains. Makes you wonder what on earth your CDC does with it's time and money, it certainly isn't prepared for an outbreak of a highly infectious disease!!

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    1. Sgt. My aunt was a microbiologist for the CDC , she worked there for more than twenty years. She told me that it was a bureaucracy, run by people who were slaves to federal money, and whose ambitions were hitched to the federal government star. While there are undoubtedly some motivated individual there with honorable intentions, the hierarchy is stacked with professional boot lickers who will follow whatever government line they are told to put out to the public, and truth is not a consideration.

      Anybody who pays any attention at all to current events knows the administration of Barack Obama is one of the most self serving, dishonest, and craven ever to run this country. Anybody that believes one word of what those people say is engaging in willful self delusion.

      Things don't look good here. I was watching "NewsMax Channel" today, and they pointed out that if one frightened Liberian could cost all this trouble and expense. What about 50 Islamic Terrorists who intentionally got Ebola and then traveled around the U.S. doing all they could to infect the maximum number of citizens. If you can get guys to blow themselves up in a fit of ecstasy, how hard would it be to find volunteers for a project like that. The Senator being interviewed on NewsMax said "let's don't even talk about that."

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    2. I'm afraid you are right, the aim of a bureaucracy is not to actually achieve anything, rather it is to make sure that the department continues to receive funding and if possible expand it's empire at the expense of other departments. Terrorists don't need to infect themselves, that second nurse has already exposed an entire plane load of people who presumably have spread out all over the country.

      The opposition (Labour party & Greens) down here are trying to get the Govt. to send medical teams to Africa to help with the outbreak but Tony Abbott is refusing to place people in danger, as he says if things get out of hand there is no way we can evacuate people safely from the region without putting Australia at risk.

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    3. I often wonder why the British and the Australians seem to make the right decisions in times of crisis so much more often than we do? I think it's because, for all the political aspects of things, those countries , when it gets down to the brass tacks, make sensible decisions.

      Our government seems to make decisions based solely on what the next poll will show, how the next election will turn out, and the real world considerations can just go soak. I talked to fellow today on line, a good guy with no axe to grind. He told me we can't stop flights from West Africa because the population there is black. Point, period, exclamation mark.

      We had no trouble stopping flights into Israel during the last Gaza eruption for no better reason than a rocket falling 2 miles from the runway. But we can't stop all these potential Typhoid Mary's from parading into the country. Everyone knows that testing on both ends of the flight is useless if the infected person isn't "presenting symptoms" yet, but the government here says that will have to do.

      You can be sure that they're scrambling to make certain all their bunker and "Doomsday" facilities are well stocked, so that if things get out of hand they can wait it out in safety and comfort while the rest of the population goes through a "Walking Dead" experience. It would be easy to say that's just wild conjecture, except that the National Geographic, Discovery and History Channels all have programs which show these facilities and make it plain that they are to protect and preserve the "government and essential elements of society" which doesn't include people like me.

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  3. I've had a bad feeling about Ebola since it started. Also Enterovirus for the little kiddos.

    Have fun with your adult kiddos. I'm glad they are going to see you soon.

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    1. Alissa, I think a lot of us were dismayed when all this started in West Africa and our government did zilch about it. The virus that is causing so much harm to small children is rampant in Honduras and Guatemala, but wasn't in evidence here until the Southern Border imploded. The same people telling us not to worry about Ebola are saying that is a coincidence.

      If the kids do actually come on down, it will mean we are living through a terrific crisis, and who knows what the society will be like when it's over? They're planning on coming around Christmas if things stay pretty normal, so all the goodies my wife is buying won't go to waste. I'm looking forward to seeing them too.

      Be careful up there at your school. This is that time of year when all the common maladies are going around and teachers seem to pick all of them up.

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    2. If I recall what happened in past Ebola pandemics, governments just completely shut down and quarantined the entire town until those who died died in their homes - no spreading. Cruel - but effective. I read a blog who had mentioned the fruit bats that start this disease move about far more, due to their habitat being destroyed.

      Nancy Synderman truly risked a lot of lives going out like that. And being a doctor - astounding! I don't think her career will last very long, at least in television industry.

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    3. I wonder how we are going to contain it here, where we can't even keep people under quarantine from going out for fast food? The NBC crew couldn't have cared less about their moral obligations, and there's no way they can plead ignorance. I hope her television career is over, but I notice NBC is sweeping this incident under the rug, and the other networks are "moving right along" as well on the issue.

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  4. I don't understand why we don't all just go into a national quarrentine for about a month. I mean I do understand that it would be devastating to the economy but compared to a pandemic, a much better solution. A huge drawback is how to get everyone enough food and water that cannot afford it. And tonsuspend debt payment so people don't lose their homes and cars. There has to be a plan for this that they have not enacted.

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    1. Kathy, I think the economy would implode. It would take a much stronger government than we have to regulate who goes to work and who doesn't. As you pointed out, distributing food and other supplies would be a huge task. The idea itself is a good one, but it would require a discipline and will that this country just doesn't have I think.

      I doubt they have a plan. The government is still letting flights in from the hot spots, an act of incredible short shortsightedness and breath taking stupidity. So was sending 4000 U.S. service men and women into the hot spot. How are we going to handle it when they start rotating back to the states? The whole thing is a colossal mess, and it's getting worse by the day.

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    2. Distributing food and water would be a difficult task made impossible by certain demographics demanding special treatment because they wanted instead of hamburger. Plus, the impatience of that demographic would cause rioting and mobbing of the distributors. I would sit quietly, wait my turn, and take what I was given. Others won't comply because they are "special" and accustomed to getting their way by wreaking havoc and being loud.

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    3. Wouldn't you think that after all these years of funding FEMA that Someone would have mapped out a program for a waaay overdue pandemic. Well, I guess not.

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    4. They certainly should have. In fact, during the last Bird Flu scare the government spokesmen all said not to worry, that if the disease became an issue in the U.S. they had the entire contingency planned for. I guess they need to come up with a new contingency plan for Ebola, though I can't see why. Either that, or they were blowing smoke in the first place.

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  5. Back when some raghead shot a rocket at Telaviv airport Obumer issued an executive order stopping all American airline flights going there. It really would not take much to stop all flights and passengers originating in west Africa from coming here. But since there is no political benefit for him directly he will not do it.

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    1. He won't stop the flights from the hot zone because the inhabitants are black. Jesse Jackson is already squalling that this Duncan character who came into the U.S. knowing full well he was sick, was not given the same treatment as the white persons who were infected. In reality , the blood serum from the individual who recovered from ebola was not compatible with Duncan's blood type, but Jackson and his ilk never let a little thing like truth get in the way of a good whine.

      You're absolutely right. The D.C. crowd doesn't give a damn about the people living in the country. It's all about what's good for the Belt Way elite and their sycophants. Can't do anything that might effect the mid term elections, even if thousands die because the necessary decisions weren't made due to political correctness and political expediency.

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  6. I had an interesting talk with my daughter and granddaughter today. My granddaughter wanted to interview me for a school project. One of the questions she asked was, "What would you like to see the younger generation do differently than they are doing now?" My reply was that I would like to see both her generation and her mother's generation pay more attention to what is going on in the world around them. And I would like to see them prepare for bad times. Granddaughter remarked that if anything bad happened, they would just come to my house because I have all the food.

    I asked both of them what would they do if one day the police knocked on the door of their apartment, informed them that a nurse living in the same building had contracted the Ebola virus and the whole apartment complex was now under quarantine. How long could they survive on the food they had on hand. To my total amazement my daughter said that someone would have to bring them food. I asked her if that would be the same people that brought food to the victims of Hurricane Sandy. The same victims I had seen pictures of digging through dumpsters for food in the aftermath of that storm. And under quarantine, who did she suppose was going to cross the lines to deliver food. Wasn't going to be the pizza delivery guy. And I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for FEMA.

    I doubt that I was able to get through to either of them. Their plan is the same as so many. We'll just go to Mom's house. Like you, I want nothing more than to have my kids with me in times of trouble. But I really wish they would start to take some responsibility for their own well being. After all, they might not be able to get here, and then what will happen to them.

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    1. My daughter is very focused on planning ahead and being ready to react to unpleasant eventualities. My son is more like his mother, he goes along in life and deals with things in a reactive manner. I suppose that somehow that aspect of a persons psychological makeup is genetic. Both of my kids are attuned to preparedness, but I think my daughter is the catalyst behind most of their planning and long term preparation. Neither of my two offspring look for help in any circumstances outside the extended family. Nor do they expect any help of any kind , ever, from the government. I think that's pretty much true of all my nephews and nieces, as well as my siblings. My mother and father were "go it alone" people and that aspect of our childhood still permeates our lives.

      It may be that your family relies on you to lead the way in such circumstances, which is a good thing. At least everybody has an idea of where to go and what to do. I suspect as they get older and have more free time from wringing a living out of the daily grind, they will give it more thought.

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  7. Scary situation, Harry.

    I know you're all ready and stocked up for winter - for two people. Will your preparations be enough for four - and a horse??

    And, as you say, timing is the most important consideration of all...

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    1. I actually stored food and supplies based on a larger number of people and a lengthy period of time. Not knowing what might actually happen, we decided back in the late 80's to plan for 10 people and 2 years. That has changed, as peoples plans ebb and flow with time, but we are in good shape for a long "siege" if it comes to it. I don't have horse feed, but I have a lot of corn, which is easily replenished from local fields except in winter. If it begins to look like they are coming down, I will go to the feed store and REALLY stock up on animal feed. I will have to place a special amazon order for the ferrets favorite "ferret chicken treats" and "ferret gourmet duck soup" in quantity. Also for their protein paste , vitamin paste, and their ferret laxative. They get hair balls in spring.

      The only real pain with Seamus is he will have to have a shed, which my son and I can build him out of materials already on hand. He will have to have at least a couple of strands of barbed wire around the meadow so he doesn't wander off. I hate that stuff but I keep several spools in store here, because there are a lot of situations where it comes in handy. You probably wouldn't believe some of the stuff I have stored away just in case I might need it some day. For instance, the state park I worked at on that senior program sold camping gear and supplies. Then a new park ranger, very young and attuned to what campers really want, decided to sell gourmet chocolate and flowers in the store (I am too much the old geezer to understand that, but it was his park) and I bought virtually everything in the store at cost. They were glad to sell it to me to get rid of it and I was glad to get it cheap. That purchase alone covered a wide spectrum of "what if's."

      The big issue will be when do we go into forted up mode? It really will mean disruption, since the kids will have to quit their jobs and my wife will not be able to work, so I will have to keep myself well apprised of all the available facts. Then it will be my responsibility to pull the trigger and set events in motion. I expect if it really comes to that I will err on the side of caution.

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  8. Hey Harry,

    (Ebolacrunch) in Texas the Ebola capitol of the U.S.S.R er' United States


    Yeah' its crazy and getting crazier every day!

    I did a big run to wally mart and got lots of stuff. They had 100 packs of rubber gloves and I got a box along with comfort food like Nutty Bars (Nutter Buddy Bars) for Kymbers favorite Nutter in South Texas:)

    No signs of panic down here except some of the survival stores are getting increased business along with gun stores etc.

    Hey Harry.

    heres one I bet you did not think about....

    Now we are scared shitless about Mexicans and Guatamalans coming over with Ebola across the border.
    Yeah' if Mexico or Central America gets ebola, they are screwed.....and we are screwed.....

    I almost forgot. I got Comfort Beer (Shiner bock) and I may hit the liguor store and pick up my friend "Jack Daniels. Im not into hard booze however, I do like a Jack and coke on occasion.

    Horses are cool. I think its great you guys rescued a horse. You should make little saddles for the ferrets and you can take them for pony rides:)

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    1. CC: There was a French doctor with vast experience in Africa on CNN a couple of days ago. He addressed that very question which you've raised. There have already been cases in Brazil, and he anticipates many, many more in Central America, South America, and Mexico. He asked, rhetorically, just what we Americans think will happen when that stuff starts spreading down there. He pointed out that Duncan, the Liberian who came here knowing he was sick, did so specifically because he knew he would get the best available care, and get it free. The Doctor said everybody south of the border knows if they can get across the line and surrender to the American border patrol, they are guaranteed the finest medical care. The doctor said if we think we have problems with a few thousand illegals coming in per day now, just wait til the panic starts. I am pretty sure by now that interview will be on the CNN video web page, or at least some of it.

      I have a lot of hard liquor stored away, but it's for trading. Except for some special Southern Comfort for me. Most of what I have stored is rot gut from the North Carolina ABC store across the border. We can't buy hard liquor in this part of Georgia. Couldn't buy beer or wine until a couple of years ago, and still can't buy any booze on Sunday, as God and the Southern Baptists do not approve.

      I think the ferrets would be better off riding the dogs, I'd try the cats but they are too fractious to be saddled. ;-)

      By the way, a guy I was listening to on the radio said we need to sever all transportation links between Ebola hotspots and the U.S., including Texas. I don't think he was kidding.

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    2. Your joking I hope Harry, can't buy any spirits!!! I thought all that ended back with Prohibition. If the government ever tried to ban beer and Bundaberg rum down here in Oz there would be our first ever revolution.

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    3. Oh, no. No joke. Until just a few years ago, there were no beer, wine or liquor sales in this county. People went up to North Carolina to buy their booze. My brother came from California to visit me, and nearly expired in agony because he arrived on a Sunday and even in North Carolina, no booze sold on Sunday. We still can't buy things like rum or whiskey in my county, only beer and wine, and then only in grocery stores. We are not allowed to have pubs or liquor by the drink establishments. That's all because the Southern Baptists are very powerful here and they can win just about any vote on the issue. The only reason we got beer and wine sales was because Walmart wanted to come here, and everybody wanted a Walmart because the closest one was 45 miles away. But Walmart said if they couldn't sell beer and wine they wouldn't build a store. So enough Southern Baptists defected and sneaked in a vote to allow beer and wine sales that passed, much to the rage of the local preachers. Despite their predictions, so far the availability of beer and wine has not led to murders, wife beatings, child abuse, job absenteeism, plaques of frogs and locusts, nor has our river turned to blood.

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    4. Well, that is surprising Harry! No Pubs in your county? I am going to have to think twice about coming over to visit you. We can't buy alcohol in supermarkets, instead we go to "bottle Shops" and pubs and these are open 7 days a week (although in deference to Sundays these establishments don't open until 10.00am that day).

      We do religion a bit differently in OZ, the Pastor of the church I used to attend was partial to a good red and a beer and often used to hold a BYO (Bring Your Own Grog) BBQ for the blokes in the church. The only thing most churches here stress is don't drink to excess.

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  9. P.S. Being a sub-tropical disease, I wonder if sub-zero temperatures affect the potential spread of the disease?

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    1. Dani, apparently not. My understanding is that once it finds a host, it will make the leap from the host to the new victim regardless of weather conditions, since it resides in the host and is warmed by the body temperature of the individual it has infected. If it were airborne, I think that temperature might make a big difference. I haven't heard this discussed by the "experts" not that they seem to be getting a lot of the answers right anyway, but this is just my opinion on it.

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    2. I believe that Ebola is airborne!

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    3. Linda - So do I. it's surprising to me that given that the health authorities world-wide are aware of the consequences of someone contracting ebola, I find it MOST peculiar that nursing staff are contracting it...!

      THEY know better than to come into contact with bodily fluids of any kind from an infected patient. Ipso facto - it must be airborne!

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    4. I watched Fox News this morning, and they addressed this issue. They ran a poll and it showed that 46% of Americans believe the virus is airborne. I forget the figures for those who had no opinion and thought it was not, but it does seem to me that ebola probably is airborne. First CDC said it absolutely was not. Then they said if you were within 3 feet of an infected person you could get it, but with the caveat that you had to be around them a long time. That makes no sense to me. You only have to be around a person at the instant you get infected, be that ten minutes, ten hours, or ten days. I know the government here is trying to lay it off on the nurses that got sick, saying they must have "broken the protocols" but I haven't heard anyone say what protocol they broke.

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  10. I am not sure if an author would have made the spread of the disease such a matter of blasé stupidity. Of course, most authors usually don't worry too much about actual transmission methods anyway. It's usually a way to cull the population down to a manageable size quickly and leave some free supplies to the survivors.

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    1. You mean the Curious George picture. That's actually from a 2009 episode of the Simpsons. I think the guy who wrote Curious George must be dead, since the books were popular when I was a child.

      It's a measure of just how little trust there is in the government that many people do fear this is an attempt to adjust the Malthusian situation and give his concept a little boost. I'd almost believe it myself if I didn't think the government was too inept to engineer something of that nature.

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  11. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    Yeah' I we need to shut down the borders to keep the Ebola out from Mex. and other latin American countries, etc, etc, etc.

    Texas is not the problem. Its the idiots that don't respect the idea of a quarantine.

    I will just come out and say it.

    if shit gets so bad with ebola victims streaming across the border seeking medical care and infecting Texans along the way. I think by that point most infrastructure and law enforcement will be crumbling along the border and civilians will take over 'border enforcement' duties.

    The feds can keep this and worse from happening, just by enforcing current laws and sealing up the border.
    I hope some border patrol agents and their supervisors that are not 'fed stooges' are talking about what alternative plans they have to protect the nations borders from "Ebola Zombies" streaming across the border.

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    1. Everything I am reading , CC, gives me the impression that the "hands off" policy along the Southern border has not been adjusted one jot since this Ebola thing began. The federal government is still allowing illegals to cross the border, "surrender" to the border patrol, then the feds bus them to states in the interior, from which they simply melt into the crowd and disappear. Morale among the Border Patrol is at rock bottom, since no one wants to risk their life interdicting illegals who will then be given bus rides North and released into the population. A recent warning by a top General that Ebola is going to force a huge influx of illegals fleeing the disease to the supposed "safe haven" of the U.S. is getting a lot of time on the news, Fox has a video about the story this morning on their web page. But nothing is being done, nothing at all.

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  12. Do you have a place for the horse? We have plenty of pasture if she needs a space out of the city.

    The ebola is scary. It could potentially get bad quickly. I can't believe that second nurse called the CDC about her fever before she got on the plane, and they told her to go ahead and fly. What were they thinking?!?

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    1. Lisa, that's really nice of you to offer. We used to have horses up here when the kids were younger, and the meadow was orginally cut out of the forest to give them some space clear of the trees and some pasture. I had it all fenced in with electric wire and they had a shed. But since the kids left and the horses were moved, it has just been "fallow." My son and I will build a shed for Seamus and he will be ok in the meadow. I sure do appreciate your thinking of that though.

      CDC has turned in a pathetic performance all around on the Ebola situation. My personal thoughts, based on what my Aunt told me years ago when she worked there as a microbiologist, is that they are making decisions based on government instructions to minimize the whole situation, and not on a sound medical basis.

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  13. I was just talking to my co-worker. His adult son and his wife live 10 minutes from that hospital in Texas. His wife has been washing her hands all day long. His son is in the military, and is overseas. He's a combat control officer. I don't know if I'd want to be overseas right now, but being in Texas minutes away from people that contracted Ebola wouldn't be good either.

    My co-worker said that in a military handbook it said that Ebola can be air born as well as from bodily fluids. That makes it scarier. I wonder if that's true? If it is, did they lie to not cause mass panic?

    My husband has class with someone that works with the patients in Nebraska. She said in Texas they weren't doing everything right. They have to take off their full body suit, toss it to be burnt, and wash their hands with bleach water.

    I imagine they'll get as many patients to Nebraska, and Atlanta as possible. They have the best care units for infectious disease.

    We had to deal with infectious disease twice - once with Mica's staph infection and the other with Isaak's meningitis. It's not fun. They asked us, "Do you harbor people in your basement from another country?" I was lacking on sleep, and my emotions were nuts. I'm sure I sounded like a bi#ch when I said, "Hell no!" The truth - only nurses (family) were taking care of our boys besides us. Both boys had been to the doctor's office a week and the other 2 days before they contracted what they had. I honestly think I gave Mica the staph infection. He had an ear infection on the same side. I probably picked at his ear; we all have living staff on our skin. I'm thinking Isaak got meningitis from his binki. Maybe it got set on a table that had it. I don't know. They thought it was bacterial, but no bacteria samples ever grew. Antibiotics seemed to help him though. I'm one that likes to figure things out.

    In Iowa I saw on the news last night they have a case of bacterial meningitis. The whole school is shut down for now.

    We have our first case of Influenza in Nebraska as of yesterday.

    It's going to be a bad year for sickness.

    On a sick/twisted note our society is over populated. Maybe it's natures way of killing us off. Just like forest fires are needed to tame a forest.

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    1. Alissa, I personally believe that Ebola can be spread through the air. I think the government is well aware of it, and is deliberately misinforming the public to avoid the loss of control that a panic would inevitably bring about.

      My kids had chicken pox, and I think that is the only communicable disease (other than flu) we ever had to deal with. Your situation was much more dangerous and I'm sure having been through that heightens your awareness of what's involved. One of the things I have noticed is that a lot of people are being very blase about the whole situation and are taking exactly no precautions. I think most of them are believing the government statements, and see no need. That's a huge mistake.

      When i was in the Marines, we were vaccinated for everything from Yellow Jack to Small Pox before deployments. I am sure we were not vaccinated for Ebola as I don't think anyone had even heard of it then. Now the Army Lab in D.C. is working furiously to come up with a vaccine to inoculate the 4000 troops we deployed to the hot zone. How could anyone is authority send 4000 Americans into that mess with no way to protect them? What will they do with the people who rotate out or whose time expires and are to be discharged? What if our people there start getting the disease in large numbers?

      What happens when the disease starts spreading in South America (it's already in Brazil) and Central America, and Mexico? We have taken no steps to rebuild the border, and our military is telling us that there will be a vast influx of illegals, carrying the disease with them, pouring into the U.S. thinking they will be cared for here.

      As you say, it's going to be a bad year for sickness.

      Thomas Malthus said that about nature adjusting overpopulation back in the 1700's, and no one has ever disputed his basic concept with any success that I'm aware of.

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  14. Your kids still could get Shingles from the Chicken Pox. I wonder when one is supposed to get a Shingles shot? I heard it is late 40s, early 50s, but people can get Shingles earlier than that.

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    1. I'm the right person to ask about that. I got a shingles shot. My doctor wanted me to get one when I was fifty five, which was about seven years ago. But my insurance wouldn't pay for it til I turned 60, and the shot alone cost $250.00. So I got the shot, and then I pranced around telling everybody I couldn't get shingles. But someone I know and email a lot said "yes, you can still get shingles it just won't be so bad." Then I went to my doctors office and they said "oh, yeah, didn't we explain that to you."

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    2. It's good you paid for the shot then. I wonder why they make people wait for it.

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    3. I'm not sure why you have to wait. In my case, it was just one of those stupid rules insurance companies make up to try to keep you from using your benefits.

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  15. I pray that you can get this outbreak under control, but deep down I think we all know it is going to get much worse before it gets better. If the borders with Mexico are not shut down immediately the US id going to be in a world of trouble. Makes me very grateful that we are surrounded by sea down here at the bottom of the world.

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    1. I'm telling you, you guys have it made as long as you don't do something dumb. Whoever let all those Lebanese into your country some years back should be strung up by the thumbs. But we are pretty much done for here. Our President is an idiot, his staff are all ass kissers. Only the military could set things right and we just aren't a country that goes in for coups, even when we really need one. I think we are dorked.

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    2. The people responsible are the Labour Party who are now thankfully out of government and in opposition for at least the next 2 elections. Also there are a lot more tru blue Aussies than Lebanese if any trouble comes along. I think we are going to dodge the bullet on Ebola but I am worried for you guys, do you have any politicians who could take the lead as this crisis unfolds?

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    3. None that I know of. I don't know of any politicians on a national level who are worth a damn, in either party. We always just muddle through each crisis as it comes, but that may be harder to do this time.

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  16. Some good news, ebola under control in Nigeria.
    http://itdontmakesense.blogspot.com/2014/10/how-ebola-is-done.html

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  17. I heard that , very briefly, on the news for about a day. I hope it's true.

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