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Monday, June 15, 2015

Comments.



“I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.”

John Wayne in "The Shootist."




I took comment moderation out of the blog set up. Anyone who read the comments on "Reworking the Blog" will have picked up on that ,  I think.

Everyone who has a blog has to deal with the issue of censorship.  I went to "comment moderation" because some of the comments I was getting were so full of vulgarity and obscenity that I couldn't publish them. However, some comments I didn't publish were not offensive for that reason, but rather because they expressed views attacking my own, heavily larded with personal insults. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me, but I don't care for personal insult. I don't do that to other people and don't intend to tolerate it from others.  My thought is that I will go ahead and post comments that disagree with me, so long as they are written in a manner conducive to conversation and not insult.

For instance, if someone says "you are a stupid *@#*$^" because you don't like Islamic fundamentalists" I'm going to delete it.

If they say "it's wrong to dislike Islamic fundamentalists" I'm going to leave it and explain exactly why I do dislike (that's not a strong enough word) them. I have no problem with that. They can say what they think, and I'll say what I think, and anyone else can join the conversation.

If I get a comment that says "ha ha ha ha ha you are an *#&@^ and your wife is a &#&^%$, then I'm going to delete it. That's pointless, contributes nothing, and is a waste of my time because I'm not bothered by mindless insults. Nor do I want other people who come here to have to see that kind of thing.

But I notice not having comment moderation does cause one issue.  When it was on, I had no trouble keeping up with new comments because I got a list of them in my email. But now, the only way I can find new comments is to scroll through the comment section of a post. So if someone comments on an old post, I don't know it.  Has anyone come up with a solution to this, other than having comment moderation enabled?

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  1. Every comment made on any posting (no matter how old) is sent to me by e-mail. I can't see on my settings why this is.

    I do not have comment moderation activated for recent posts, but any comments on posts older than 7 days are e-mailed to me to moderate. I have ticked that only registered users can comment though.

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  2. What is a registered user, Dani? Do you have to give people access to your blog, is that what it means? I only get the comments emailed to me if I use comment moderation. It was really handy that way, but a lot of people hate comment moderation because it delays posting their comments.

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  3. I have no idea what a registered user is - but that includes an open id user - whatever that is lol The options I have are:

    1 Anyone
    2 Registered user
    3 Users with Google accounts
    4 Only members of this blog

    Check out your "Settings -> post & comments -> who can comment."

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    1. I have seen this box. I clicked "anyone" because I thought a registered user was someone who you specifically set up for access and nobody else could see the blog. But that can't be right since you use it and lots of people go to your blog.

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  4. Harry, if you go to your blog dashboard where you set up your options somewhere in the menu is the option to be notified every time someone posts a comment even if you are not moderating. I had it set up that way before I went to moderation. "Registered user" is you the owner/creator of the blog or anyone you have given authorization to post/edit articles on your blog.

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    1. Ok, that explains registered user. It's not about comments, it's about posts. Thanks, that narrows things down a lot. I will go look at that settings button in the layout and try to find the comment notification. That's what I really need. I got spoiled when I was doing moderation, prior to that I used to scroll back through about a weeks worth of posts and just see if there were new comments. But sometimes people comment on posts from a long time ago and I'd just miss it.

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  5. I have to approve all comments. Spam sticks out like a sore thumb. Usually if there is a link to their so called website, they say something like, "I really like this post, but it needs more content...", and the topic is nothing like the post it's spam.

    My blog got shut down a few years ago for 2 days because spam comments were posted. What they did is copy my code somehow, and duplicated my blog. Blogger didn't know if my blog was my blog, or if it was their blog. It was a pain in the ass fixing that up!

    I plan on doing some overhaul coming up with mine. I need a new design, domain name, and a new name. Someone took Planet of the Apels. I've got to change it to something else.

    *My birthday is on Father's Day this year.

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    1. I thought you had a birthday coming up. I will have to remember to send you a birthday greeting that day.

      I like the moderation thing, it catches the spam and it helps me not miss comments. But at least two of my longest term "internet friends" refuse to comment at all on a blog that uses it so I know it's not popular with a lot of folks. I never used it until I had that run in with people posting a lot of obscenity on my blog, but now I think that is resolved and I can go back to not using it.

      Revamping my blog is why I am taking off a month. It is about two or three years old now and I felt like it was drifting so I wanted some time to think it over. I am ok with my design and name, but what I write about and how I handle dissenting views I need to resolve. I'm really sorry you lost Planet of the Apels, that doesn't seem fair because it suits you so well.

      I hope nothing like that with the hackers happens to me. I don't know how to resolve issues like that.

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  6. PS: Additionally I suppose you could check the little "notify me" box in the comments section of each post and you would receive the comments in your email.

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    1. I haven't seen that, but it is probably right there in front of me and I just haven't been looking for it.

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    2. right hand lower corner of the white comment box

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  7. Sometimes one gets the best comments, like the one you just left on my blog.

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    1. I always enjoy going by your blog. Beautiful pictures and good writing. I also appreciate and respect the writer.

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  8. Harry,

    I have blocked anonymous comments on my blog because most (not all people) were making rude and obscene comments. This has helped cut back on having to delete comments. I turn on moderation on and off depending on the type of comments coming through.

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    1. Sandy, I considered doing that but I get a lot of interesting comments from friends like CC and Troy who post that way. I also get some good anonymous comments I would hate to lose. Given the way the government has started squeezing bloggers I can hardly blame people for wanting to stay anonymous I guess.

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  9. I moderate comments, mostly to keep the spam and religious/superstitious nonsense out. But, I suspect I get fewer comments than you.

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    1. I like the moderation thing but it has drawbacks. For instance,try as I might I can never leave a comment on your blog, and I strongly suspect that it's something to do with blogger and the way it filters messages.

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  10. Say what you might about their objectivity or politics but Fox News has some serious talent! That being said I would definitely not kick Robin Mead of CNN (http://top10for.top10for.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Robin-Meade-CNN-Anchor.jpg) out of bed for eating crackers.

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    1. I like Fox but I could do without their token liberals, don't know why they feel the need for them. I don't watch CNN much, but I think I have seen Robin Mead, she's really pretty if she's the one I am thinking of.

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  11. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    Harry' if you don't mind me changing gears here a moment. Down here in the Texas gulf coast, we will be getting hammered with rain from Trophical Storm Bill tomorrow.
    I was working on a few things today, including doing a supply run to walmart. I picked up a bunch of cases of water, just in case. I rotate the bottle water throughout the year.
    I will try to surf tomorrow depending on conditions, tides, etc. Riptides are no problem. I still do respect them, but I am laying on a nine foot piece of foam and fiberglass so I ain't going anywhere.

    On your blog, censorship, etc. Its your work and your the boss. The only individual, individual's that have their minds made up is Sara Miller. I can't get through to someone who is not listening or even considering other opinions.

    Everyone else on your blog is outstanding.

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    1. I wish some of that rain would come here. It's really dry, the foliage is wilting, and it's hotter than hell. I have been keeping inside most of the day and only coming out at night, like a vampire. Even though my buildings are under the canopy of big oaks and poplars, it gets up in the high eighties and the humidity is awful. I can keep the buildings climate controlled.

      I honestly think you are right, that more than one person uses that web name. The reason I say that is that some of the comments are just juvenile, but some of them, even if I don't agree, interest me. It can't be the same person unless he/she is bipolar. I think a little disagreement will keep the blog from getting too comfortable, don't you? As long as everybody keeps it civil what's the harm. I'm probably as vehement in my views as she is, I just don't get personal about it if I can restrain myself. And I've had a lot of practice at self restraint.

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    2. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      Sometimes I get passionate in debating or arguing a point. I may come off as being strong, but I don't go over the line and get personal. I use facts and logic to back up my arguments. All I ask is for the other party to keep an open mind, otherwise. I am wasting my time. They still may disagree with my argument but if they see and understand my logic and point of view. Then, I have made some progress.

      In Southern Spain many, many years ago I got into a debate with a Ex-pat Brit' in a Pub who claimed to be a true Marxist. That was the first Marxist I ever met and we got drunk, agreed to disagree on everything(except on getting drunk) and became friends.

      Now I caught hell from my shipmates onboard the Puget Sound for not going to the bars and club's after women. I sat in a bar/pub talking philosophy and politics (which probably was a bad idea in the first place)
      Socrates was too much of an influence (The unexamined life is not worth living) I have always sought a higher level of existence like that of Henry David Thoreau, Gandhi, and others.

      Back to what I talked about with Col. John Boyd.

      In the early eighties as I understand it. There were many Jr. officers in the Marines that were heavily influenced by John Boyd's writings of Maneuver Warfare.

      In a nutshell, Maneuver Warfare is hitting the enemy at there weakest points from all sides, being everywhere at once and breaking the enemy down (morally breaking the enemy down) using confusion and chaos to force the strongest points to surrender.

      The old school, high up the middle, spear point frontal assault is a thing of the past and is only good for killing off men.

      In Desert Storm (Sexy name for another damn War) We practiced "Maneuver Warfare" thanks to Dick Chaney (Sec Def at the time) who secretly was consulting with then Ret. Col. John Boyd. As I understand it. Two of the old school battle plans summited by Norman Swarztkopf were shot down by Dick Chaney. "Stormin Norman' got the idea about 'Maneuver Warfare' and finally got through a battle plan to Chaney that he approved.

      Low and behold, Stormin Norman takes all the credit. Funny how those things work out (sarcasm)

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    3. CC, I remember the maneuver warfare imbroglio, just not Boyd. Actually, the Germans invented it in World War II, but we rediscovered it. "Hi Diddle Diddle, Right up the Middle" was still being taught at the officers basic school in the mid 1970's when I went through it. The thought was that the Marines were assault troops, and were expected to take objectives immediately without regard to losses. This was the tactical scenario in the Pacific in WW2 and in Korea, though I think it Viet Nam it was rarely employed because the tactical situation didn't lend itself to frontal assaults. I remember thinking in Basic School,as we practiced infantry tactics, that I was glad I was going aviation. Standing up in skirmishing lines and advancing right into the "enemy" struck me as being a little too gung ho.

      I don't mind talking ideas with people. As long as some measure of common decency can be exhibited. I don't like rude people and don't have much interest in their opinions.

      Were you in Rota? I spent a lot of time in Rota and Barcelona.

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    4. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      I spent one day in Rota. Did not get liberty from the boat.

      My time in Spain was in Tormalino's and Palma.

      That book I read on John Boyd mentioned the old' Hi Diddle Diddle, straight up the middle was mentioned several times.

      I don't think in the near future that tactic will every be used again unless we go to war with Russia (which will a big mistake)

      There was an article on drudgereport that we are moving heavy equipment into some of the former Iron Curtain countries (Big Freakin' Mistake)
      That will only agitate the Russians more.

      I guess the military industrial corps. are trying to scare up another boogey man again so we can keep the money flowing General Dynamics and other corps.

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    5. Only the Obama regime would be stupid enough to intentionally antagonize the Russians and brown nose the Moslems. They are certifiable idiots. Black Jesus has done all he could to alienate our allies the Israelis while pointlessly abasing himself and this country in a hopeless quest for love from the Moslems, who hate us and always will no matter what we do, simply because we aren't Moslem.

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  12. Folks can be really cruel with comments, which I think reflects insecurity on their part, especially when they hide behind anonymity. I agree with the way you handle comments. I do the same.

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    1. Leigh, I used to just delete ugly comments. Then I started getting so many I put in moderation. But I'm going to try to go back to letting people say what they want as long as they aren't hateful about it. Seems the best compromise. I know the internet emboldens timid spirits because they think you can't find them.

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  13. Damn, I'm going to have to go look for fun comments that I've missed while AWOL.

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  14. Max, I only just started not deleting them but there is some interesting give and take in the post "revamping the blog" or whatever I called that post. I actually think it makes the blog less boring if there's some dissent, so long as normal human standards of decent interaction can be maintained.

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  15. I hardly get any comments besides normal ones. There's the occasional straight-up SPAM but it's infrequent. I used-to get a late-night drunk Australian Liberal gun-hater who used foul language, but he must have been run over by a car staggering home drunk one night years back. With no conflict I guess my blog is pretty boring.

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    1. No, I wouldn't say boring. Tranquil,rather. I like some discussion but I want to keep it civil. My last blog, I just closed on out because it turned into a big free for all. And there weren't any people trying to be obnoxious, it was good folks who got mad and started going after each other instead of the other point of view. I don't remember exactly what it was about these years later, but it was something to do with that bunch who wear the strange white masks and are anti-government, anti-big business.

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  16. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    I was just on amazon and I found out the there will be a sequel to the book "One Second After" called "One Year After" due out in September.

    Yeah' I will order it of course.

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    1. CC, I was listening to Forstchen on a radio talk show and they were discussing the new book. Sounds good, I liked the first one very much. It was set about two hours north of me in Ashville, N.C.

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