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"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."

Ariel Durant

Saturday, September 3, 2016

Low Humidity, Moderate Temperatures.

Feels like fall out there.  Lows in the fifties last night.  Highs in the 70's today.  We haven't left the mountain top today, as the roads will be full of tourists.

Yesterday, we went for our walk at the lake, got there about sunrise. Then we went into town and had a good breakfast at a nice restaurant.  After that, we did some shopping and went to see a matinee of "War Dogs". We finished up with an early supper, at a nice place overlooking the lake,  and that will be our adventure for the long weekend.

This is one of the songs in the movie. I think of it as the "Hillary is President" song.






I bought some .45 ACP and some .40 S&W Saturday.  Found it at a good price, reloadable brass, and so I bought a good bit. I don't know why, really, except that it feels like doing something, at a time when I know I should be doing something constructive, and don't know exactly what.



I had a doctors office appointment last week.  Met a man in the waiting room.  He looked  at my "Walther" ball cap and said "I see we are on opposite sides."  He was a Hillaryite. Not your average moronic , unthinking slave to the hive. This guy was honest about their agenda. Articulate, intelligent, and utterly detached.  Not at all like the usual idiots you run into from the Moon Bat crew.

It was like sitting in a room with Heinrich Himmler.



He explained to me that Hillary wouldn't take our guns. I quoted her recent assertions she would. He laughed, and said that was true, but it would be done slowly, a little at a time, until private gun ownership in America was utterly eradicated. He said he only meant "right away."

This guy explained to me that it had to be so, because the average person in an American city was too unintelligent and too violent to be trusted with  guns.  I told him , that given who lives in American cities these days, his own co-coreligionists would condemn him as racist for that belief. He said not so, that it was a widely shared point of view, but of course not one that could be promulgated among "those who lack understanding."

He told me that human beings have to sacrifice some of their freedoms and rights to make society work smoothly. I told him that I was not a hivist, that I was an individual, and that I had no intention of doing so. This fellow said it wasn't up to me.

The conversation went back and forth. He was perfectly willing to acknowledge most of the things we believe, but he said this was not about "truth", it was about engineering a society that was "functional" and "inclusive."

I don't know how to describe the man. Like a snake, really.  It's hard to argue with someone who freely acknowledges that what you say may be true, but is irrelevant.  If people like him wind up running the government under Hillary, as  I strongly suspect they have been under Obama, then a lot of things I thought were in the realm of fiction novels may really be happening in the near future. If they aren't already.




Thought for the Day:

It's a good idea to stay out of cities.


(Caution: Vulgar Language)


59 comments:

  1. Wow...that's one scary person you met!

    I'm not sure if I've ever met one "of them" before. Most of the people I hang around have views similar enough to mine that there's no friction.

    I envy your patience with the person. I would have gotten up and left the room....

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    1. Dr. Jim, I don't usually run into that sort either. Especially not up here. But in the last few years, a lot of people have moved here who were originally from New England, went to Florida, then moved here. This individual was certainly one of them. He had to have been a lawyer, something of that nature because he made your skin crawl just sitting next to you.

      I've never met one that agreed with so many things gun owners believe, admitted it freely, but considered that philosophy outmoded and on the way out. Calm, unblinking, never showed any emotion at all.

      I felt kind of down when I left. I never feel too hot at the doctors office anyway, but mostly it was about this guy. As if I'd gotten a glimpse of the future. Not trying to be melodramatic. It was one of those "you had to be there" times I guess.

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  2. It's always interesting and more than a little creepy when you run into a True Believer. Sad thing is, he's drank so much KoolAid that he's genuinely convinced he's right.

    Its not that the culture war we're engaged in is new, it's just moved from a low-intensity, slapstick annoyance to a genuine conflict, and in some cases the shooting has already started.

    On the bright side, it's still possible for idiots like that to get hoisted on their own petard as they get 'jacked in a bad neighborhood by the very people he's trying to 'include'. Or a hurricane will claim his unprepared life. Or he'll believe the economy really *is* okay and starve to death when he loses his job. So...all is not lost.

    Wasn't it Orwell who said if you want to see what the future looks like, imagine a boot standing on your throat for eternity? If you want to see the future, I think you just did - it's well-meaing 'useful idiots' like you met.

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    1. I think the thing that really unnerved me was that he laughed at most of the hype and posturing his own crowd was doing. Remember the old saying "a little bit of sugar for the bird"? It was like that, as if all their B.S. the Moon bats constantly spout was just window dressing, while the main agenda rolled ahead. He clearly didn't give a damn about the "party planks." He was only concerned with the leftist vision of the future.

      All in all, not a pleasant experience. Sometimes I actually consider not wearing one of my ball caps with a gun logo, or an NRA logo, or a Confederate Flag because more and more often, I'm getting dragged into exchanges with liberal idiots in town. Not local. Always the half way backs.....

      So far I have resisted the urge to just go plain vanilla because I have a feeling that would be allowing myself to be intimidated. But I'm tired of the BS and I wonder just how futile things are becoming.

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    2. Don't think of it as being intimidated, Harry.

      Just think of it as being in "Stealth Mode"!

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    3. I guess I'll keep wearing my "inflammatory" hats and driving my vehicles with "offensive" bumper stickers. Too old to turn craven now. But that's a good rationalization! ;-)

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  3. Not all liberals are idiots, some are simply evil, as was your acquaintance.

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  4. In my experience, most liberals are either stupid, naive, ill informed, lack real world experience, are moral cowards, are selfish and controlling, or some combinations of the above. I don't worry about them. The people who leave comments here, knowing I won't post them, in which 90% of the words start with an F. They amuse me.

    But this individual was an entirely different type of being. The idea that there might be thousands like him, quietly pulling strings behind the scenes to advance their agenda, that's frightening.

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    1. gorges is absolutely correct.

      there are thousands of the evil pulling strings.
      they are now the dog, we are the tail, and they wag us at will.
      one day right thinkers and useful idiots will all be 'neutralized', as the french police say.
      then these evil ones will hold full sway.
      they are, literally in some cases, the devil's minions.
      the evil one is their father.
      that is why you were 'creeped out' and felt so ill after being in the company of one of the evil one's sons.
      too bad you didn't have a silver bullet!

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    2. The guy reminded me of my old boss, in the way he looked over the rest of the world with supreme contempt. The only difference was that this guy was a leftist, and my old boss was/is a fascist. On the whole, I think I preferred my old boss since he didn't represent a threat to my way of life. Just a threat to my blood pressure.

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  5. People like the man you met scare me much more than the thugs, for they are the True Believers who, deep down where it matters, are convinced they know what is best for the rest of us and will go to any lengths to make sure they achieve their version of Utopia. The thugs, with their marches and protests and anti-cop chants and violence, can be seen a mile off. But the True Believers work tirelessly from within, scraping away our rights, one inch at a time, until we are left with nothing. And I have no idea how to stop them. There are all sorts of ways to stop the thugs. But how on earth do you stop those who work from the shadows.

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    1. It's similar to the Nazi takeover. They had the SA to run around in the streets , intimidating people and trashing the opposition. But they also had some pretty clever people pulling the levers behind the scenes. The current situation is the same. Like you, I'm not concerned about the twits with their dreadlocks or their college sweatshirts. But the others are unnerving. Short of a full blown revolution , a la The Hunger Games, I don't know what to do about them either. They're like ticks, they get a grip on you and they just go on sucking your blood and injecting their poison.

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    2. Yep...the True Commies always said they would destroy us from within....

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    3. If Hive Hillary wins the election in about sixty days, they may prove to have been prescient.

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  6. The guy sounds like a dyed in the red bolshevik.

    If it is his contention that "it is no longer up to the individual" then that can only leave us with one possible option. Civil war.

    Individual liberties are non-negotiable. --Troy

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    1. It may be down the road that will happen. It happened before, but the good guys lost that one. Maybe this time around we will do better.

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  7. That guy is a classic example of a Fabian Socialist. Look it up. All the big wigs on the left today are, Obumer, Hilary, Merkel and all the other idiots in Europe. Their plan is just like the classic story about how you cook a frog. You put him in a pot of cold water over a very low flame. By the time he realizes he is in trouble it is too late to jump out. They all outwardly like to call themselves progressives. Hitler and Che Guevara thought themselves progressives too. They all want to institute an agenda that will change society "for the better". They always do claim noble intentions. Remember Hillery said "its for the children". The trouble is billions of people have been murdered in the name of the betterment of society. The progressives (read Fabians) could not give a crap about the cost in human lives or who pays the price. Personally I figure we are screwed already. Obumer has fulfilled Osama's promise. He has seeded the nation with enough islamo-facists so that American culture has already been compromised and will never fully recover. With Hilary we will only get more of it along with a few more traditional Fabian agenda perversions.

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    1. There was a time when I would have said things weren't that bad. But now, given what's going on, I have to agree with you.

      My mom had a bad experience with a rag head recently, at her hair dressers of all places, in a quiet college town in Oregon. A Moslem comes in with his wife all wrapped up in her camel blanket or burka or whatever. Head to toe. The guy tells the lady who runs the shop he wants his wife's hair done in a private room. The owner says that's not how we do things in America, and refuses. This arschloch then curses out the whole room in the vilest of language and storms out.
      Tough guy, using that kind of language on a bunch of old ladies. I didn't think I could detest Moslems more than I do, but I am finding I was wrong in that.

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    2. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      I found this on drudgereport a few days ago. Its about isis commander al Baghdadi's slave girl harem and about the American aid worker girl he kept as a sex slave.

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1710976/isis-sex-slave-13-reveals-how-murdered-american-hostage-kayla-muellers-selfless-bravery-inspired-her-escape/

      I think the only countries in Europe that see's these 7th Century barbarians for what they really are is the Russians, Poles, and a few other small countries that defying the E.U.'s immigration policy.

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  8. Do-gooders like this guy are scarier than criminals because that man thinks he's helping society, and a man who wants to help won't be stopped.

    - Charlie

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    1. that man, and i use the term 'man' loosely, is not a do-gooder. he is evil to the core and sees himself as being at the top of the pile when all the shouting is over.

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    2. Charlie, I know this fellow was convinced he was helping his segment of society, but the kind of individual he represents doesn't care much about the rest of it. I think it was more about control. His idea of all inclusive wasn't so much all the ethnic groups standing in a circle and singing Kumbaya as it was all the ethnic groups obeying the leftard elite, without exception. A guy like that isn't going to be stopped, you are sure right about that.

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  9. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    What this 'true believer' fails to comprehend that at some point just like in the Soviet Union in the early 90's, Yugoslavia (mid 90's)and now Venezuela. Goverments tend to fail and collapse under the weight of a socialist government.

    Engineering societies he said. Yeah' right. He does not get out very often. Look at all the chaos we have now!

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    1. Well, Obama came into office promising to "reinvent" American Society and he has certainly done that. He has imported tens of thousands of Moslems, not just the ten thousand from Syria. He has empowered the left wing and especially the lunatic fringe left wing splinter groups like Black Lives Matter. Even if their New World Order does collapse at some point in time, it probably will be too late to benefit you and me.

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  10. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)


    'Engineering a society that's functional and inclusive'

    Yeah' right.....

    ask anyone in Detroit or any someone in any big American city how that's worked out for them.

    Europeans readily lie down and follow the rules that are laid out for them from their leadership since they still have the mindset of serfs and peasents.

    'Most Americans have the cultural mindset of 19th century pioneers and don't like to be told what to do.

    The most important thing is that human behavior cannot be controlled. Human behavior can be regulated through a system that's a republic and with a Constitution showing guaranteed rights for all.

    'Fewer laws and regulations equals a somewhat cohesive society with guaranteed rights and some basic approximation of order.

    'Extensive laws and regulations lead to 'breaking laws and ignoring rules, thereby creating 'disorder and anarchy' (that's the system we have today)

    Control freak societies never last. The 20th century is littered with failed regimes. More than the 19th and 18th centuries combined.

    I don't argue with people that support hillery or obamo anymore. Its a pointless waist of calories to even open my mouth. They will find out for themselves in due time and some will never entertain the thought that they are wrong even if they are lead by the regime they supported to the death camps they said would never exist.

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    1. I think I live in a society that's about to join the shipwrecks of the past. I don't really understand how America has struggled on as far as it has, with trillions in debt, a feeble economy, split down the middle politically and philosophically, and increasingly violent and totalitarian governments running the show.

      I think you are right, a lot of people are about to find out that things don't just keep motoring along on their own. We came near collapse during the Great Depression and this will be infinitely worse because it's far more complex.

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  11. That clip from Falling Down is a little slice of the reality you might experience should you make the mistake of being in the wrong part of town in Chicago, St Louis, San Antonio, Denver or any large Metro area in this country I suppose.

    You're right: It's a good idea to stay out of cities.

    later,
    -Moe

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    1. It is. Reminds me of my unpleasant experience in Chattanooga. Too bad I had a gun and not a ball bat. ;-)

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  12. I just had that cold chill run down my spine that feeling things are changing more then we went to think about.

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    1. Wait til after November, if things go wrong at the polls. Then we'll see some overt moves that we aren't going to like at all. Hillary won't even pretend to pay any attention to Congress unless the Dims own both houses. And if that happens, they'll be firing up the ovens at the FEMA camps.

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  13. Harry,

    Bearing Arms did a fairly succinct article on how the left will try to take our weapons.

    http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/08/17/heres-president-hillary-will-destroy-gun-rights-without-repealing-second-amendment/

    Chuck

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    1. Thanks for the link, Chuck. I'll go read it. The leftards have been pretty straightforward about their plans, but a person can always learn something new.

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  14. First, I have to say I agree with Troy. Non Negotiable. I like asking people like you met, how many of your fellow citizens are you willing to kill to achieve your Marxist utopia? Make them put a number on what they think is acceptable death. Most have clearly not thought that far ahead. What do they think, we will just walk right into the boxcars for them? This is America, and there are some number of Americans who will resist, all the way to death. And it will not just be us doing the dying. And most of them either have not grasped that fact, or they think they will send someone else to do their killing for them. I think they will run out of hired killers long before they run out of Americans. Someone should explain the last few years NICS numbers to them, and what that actually means....Not everyone is going to be content with rolling over. I hope and pray they are not that stupid, but I am beginning to wonder.

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    1. If Texas were to secede, I think that a lot of the Southern States would tag along. Not Virginia, not Florida, not Maryland but some of the Deep South states. Then things might get interesting.

      Everything is in such turmoil right now that it's hard to make any really accurate guess about the immediate future. There's always the Black Swan event that sets off a whole chain of actions no one foresaw.

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    2. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      Too many people in Texas are addicted to the government money. Unless the money train stops. It would take a hell of a lot for Texas to break from the Union. I mean it would take the elimination of the Constitution, Martial Law and a few other really, really nasty 'reconstruction styled' rules for the fervor of secession to begin.
      In fact, I believe that Texas itself is liable to break apart into smaller regions. I see 'far west Texas on the New Mexico border aligning with Mexico. 'You can damn well bet though the oil producing 'Permian Basin' and 'Eagle Ford' oil and natural gas plays will stay in Texas and under Texas control. We will go to war with Mexico over that. There is so much oil and natural gas here its unreal, just unreal.

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    3. Harry,
      It's a sad day that Florida doesn't make the cut. I agree with you, but it wasn't like this until the yanks started moving down here and voting for the dems...

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    4. CC,

      The money train will stop eventually because it will be out of steam. I notice Obama offered 90 million to Laos yesterday to help "recover from the war." So maybe we aren't as broke as I thought we were.

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    5. Anon, there was an article on one of the MSM web pages not long ago, crowing about the fact that so many Puerto Ricans have moved to Florida in the last few years they have changed the voting patterns in some critical districts that were previously solidly Red. The times, they are a changin'.

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  15. Your doctor visits seem a lot more eventful than mine.

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    1. I seem to hold some unholy fascination for the half way backs from New England. I guess it's the beard, the cargo pants, boots, and vest. The men here dress like that. But the half way backs wear sandals, brightly colored short sleeve shirts, gold necklaces, walking shorts. They get into close proximity to me and they have to make some kind of comment. If I would quit wearing ball caps that have some kind of political significance, I could probably escape a lot of this kind of thing. Same with my vehicles, if I didn't put pro Confederate and NRA stickers on them, I wouldn't come back out to my car to find notes under my windshield about what an a**hole I must be.

      I'm not garroulous but a lot of these people are. They also come from places where you can be rude to strangers without any real risk, so they feel free to say things to someone they don't know, that they probably shouldn't. This often ends badly for them, as I know from listening to the scanner. Walmart gets lots of visits from the Sheriff's Department because some one made an unwise comment and got punched in the nose. But there are never any witnesses....

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    2. I don't do that, don't want to give the wrong idea. First, I don't go to Walmart, and second, my wife is always with me and she won't let things get that far.

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    3. Hey Harry,

      (captaincrunch)

      I'm glad your Commanding Officer 'er wife, is taking charge and seeing that you behave in a 'proper military manner:)

      (something tells me that 'Jambaloney is the one keeping Kymber inline too:)

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    4. It's OK Harry, nobody here would blame you if you did. In fact, i'd pay $1,000 bucks to see you punch some rude yankee liberal in the nose :) --Troy

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  16. Wow. Just wow. So you got to meet one of our "half backs." They leave New England, go to FL, hate it then come half way back.

    Glad we got rid of that one. Do with him as you will.

    New England is not all Cities and Liberals. Buddy of mine moved to KY and they though he might never had seen a gun. My friend played it up, asking which end the bullet came out of. Then he outshot everyone at the range that day.

    Anyone who has a special plan for society makes my skin crawl -be it guys like the creep you met or someone with a particular religious banner to wave, or just power hungry psychos.

    All I know is that it's in my nature to monkey wrench such plans any way in my power -and I am not alone.

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    1. CC, when I came up into the mountains many moons ago, I had a real problem with self control. My wife would keep things from getting out of hand by making sure that if I got into it would someone, the argument ended before it got violent. Usually by saying something like "we need to go now, and you know why."

      I've been working on that issue for a long time now, and I am a lot better about not losing my temper. It still happens but I don't attack people or break car windows, or engage in other "anti-social" behavior with negative ramifications for things like getting into difficulties with the police.

      This used to be a place where people settled their own differences and nobody would call the Sheriff about a personal dispute because that would make them look bad. But times have changed and so many out of towners live here now that don't do anything but drive around with a cell phone looking for people to tattle on.

      The saving grace for a lot of people is that there have to be two witnesses not related to you who observed the fray and will testify in court to bring assault charges. Two people stupid enough to testify against someone in open court are as rare as hen's teeth , even today.

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    2. Six Bears, sadly for us the Half Way Backs constitute about half the population here now. There's a big mountain overlooking the lake in the next county, covered with condos. Guess who lives in all of those. ;-)

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  17. Excellent thought of the day!

    The biggest problem with that particular political sounds-goodism (and what they'll never fess up to) is that they are willing to sacrifice everybody but themselves for the "good" of society.

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    1. Leigh, that's true. The smiling faces with the bland pronouncements about the common good are usually individuals who have no interest in anyone's situation but their own. Hillary Clinton is a prime example.

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  18. There's a book out you may enjoy, entitled "Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Prophet, Martyr, Spy." He was a christian theologian, so I expect it's a heavy on theology for most - but it also talks about how he watched Hitler's rise to power as it unfolded in front of him, and could do nothing about it. He tried in many ways to get the populous to recognize the threat that was nazism, and to fight the nazis every chance he could. Eventually he joined the Valkyrie plot to assassinate Hitler. In the end, they were unsuccessful and he was hung for treason against the Nazis. I'd like to think he held his head high in the end -at least he knew he had tried.

    I read the book a year or two ago and couldn't help but think about how eerily similar events in that book are to events of today. Half the population (or more) is just going along with it. One day they'll realize what has happened, but it will be too late.

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    1. He had a lot of company in the way he went out. The Nazi phemonenon does sound a lot like what's going on here today. Like a lot of other people, then and now, it's easy to see the problem but not so easy to see a solution.

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  19. Just wanted to let you know that I was able to get a free Kindle for PC app for my computer. Who knew?! Then I was able to download that book for $5. Much better than the cost of the paper version! I look forward to reading it soon :-)

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    1. Lisa, I'm really glad you were able to do that. I have been reading the three volume series again, and I am beginning to realize I did not appreciate volume three "Remnants" as much as I should have, given the political situation today.

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  20. Thomas Hobbes was prematurely born in 1588 as the Spanish Armada approached. He said his mother gave birth to twins--fear and himself. He did everything he could to be safe, never taking any chances. He wrote about the "social contract" where individuals give up rights to authorities in order to be protected.

    I am horrible in history unless it is explained in terms of literature. Thomas Hobbes, a philosopher, is not someone I admire. We studied him in grad school. He was a fearful man, following people who could protect him.

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  21. I always think if the individual is free to work, pray and live as a moral and honest person, the good of society automatically benefits, however mess up the individual and have them legislated to support society and things go badly!

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    1. Some laws are common sense. Not stealing , for instance. But most laws today are designed to force individuals to live in accordance with a specific agenda. I don't go alone with those.

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  22. Hey Harry,

    (captaincrunch)

    There's video clip floating around on youtube (I saw it on BP Earthwatch's channel) showing hillery calling people like us 'Deplorable' because we are xenophobic, homophobic, islamophobic, etc, etc, etc.

    that one's gonna hurt her popularity.

    I've been called a lot of things in my life but I don't remember being called 'deplorable' I wonder if we will be sent to the box cars/camps/showers/gas chambers/ovens under hillery?

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    1. I saw that on Fox the day she made her little tirade. She's insane.

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