Monday, February 11, 2019

Cetme Rifles. God Emperor Trump. Bad times in Austria. Ethiopian 8mm Mauser on the market..



Classic Arms has some Cetme 7.62X51 rifles in. The first batch I know of came in during the mid 1990's, they were parts kits put back together with Century International Arms receivers. It was during the Feinstein ban, so the guns had muzzle brakes rather than flash suppressors. I have one of these. The Cetme was originally designed and put into production by the same Mauser team that was working on a replacement for the STG-44. When the war ended, the German team fled to Nationalist Spain, where they found work at the government arsenal.  When the post war German Army decided to equip with a new rifle to replace the STG-58 (they couldn't get a license from the Belgians to produce it domestically), the Cetme was modified to meet their specifications and went into production in Germany as the G-3.  That rifle is still in use all over the world.  I have a G-3, though I find having the charging handle on the forward part of the rifle rather than the receiver to be a bit awkward.  Some people say you can use Cetme mags or G-3 mags in the Cetme. I tried both and had no trouble, but the internet gun forums are full of people who did. You pays your dime and you takes your chances.  The Cetme is a fine rifle, and if you want a battle rifle in 7.62X51 rather than 5.56 you could do worse.






My wife and I lived in Italy for four years in the early 1980's. She was on the staff of ComAirSouth (NATO staff of 5th Air Force) and I was on the staff of ComStrikeForSouth (NATO staff of 6th Fleet.)  We lived in a little villa out on the shore of the Mediterranean sea, outside Naples. There was no officers housing in Naples, so everybody lived on the economy.

Living with the Italians, I got to know a lot of the older folks in our "Parco" (neighborhood) pretty well. Most of the men had been in World War 2. Most of them had been prisoners in Scotland, and had liked it a hell of a lot better than fighting. They were honest about that. But I also learned that Italians, in general, prefer a strong, powerful man at the head of government, and they don't much give a damn if he's the Duce, the President, the Premier or the King as long as there is order, the economy is good, people have jobs, crime is low, and there's enough to eat.

I know from watching foreign news on the satellite that President Trump has a large following in Europe. Whatever country you pick, there are a lot of people who view him very favorably because he is seen as strong, as a promise keeper, as a leader opposed to unbridled and illegal immigration. They also like him because he's not seen as part of the "for life government bureaucracy."

When a friend sent this video to me, I wasn't at all surprised to see President Trump being lauded at the carnival of Via Reggio.   It's held in a sea side resort annually, and has been going on since the late 1800's .Pretty good parade, seemed to me!






This video is a good example of what happens when you let an aggressive , invasive species into your community. I used to read about this in Europe and think it could never happen here, but given the events of the last couple of years all over this country, I think we are going to have to deal with it too.





Here's a link sent by Michael, it's an evaluation of the Ethiopian 8mm Mauser ammo discussed in a previous post. The evaluator is a big name in Curio and and Relic circles, with lots of videos on Amazon Prime.

Ethiopian 8mm Mauser ammo evaluation:



On the home front, it's been raining all day, and it's still raining tonight (about 9 p.m.), supposed to continue for the next two days. It's not cold though, in the mid fifties outside right now.

The wife and I took the Jeep and went over to Murphy, N.C. to the "scratch and dent" grocery store. We spent $83.00 and got two shopping carts full of supplies. Among the things we got were olive oil, olives, whole cheeses, large summer sausages, canned chili, lots of frozen vegetables, frozen chicken, spare ribs, stew beef, smoked hog jowls for the dogs, canned fruit, canned vegetables, large cans of orange juice (79 cents each), cans of spam in different flavors ($1.50 a can, compared to almost $3.00 at Walmart, and they had flavors Walmart never has.)  It feels good to get so much, for so little and it helps with the budget.

Tonight the kids are arriving from Nashville. I didn't even know they were coming until late last night. They aren't leaving Nashville until after rush hour (probably will leave around 7:00 their time , 8:00 our time.) Since it's raining so hard and there's a lot of fog, it will be a long  trip for them. They are bringing four cats that need homes and will find a permanent residence with the barn cats. What's four more?



That's pretty much the way things are.

Welcome to North Georgia

23 comments:

  1. I would love to shoot one. But liberals and idiots are frightened by guns so they've been banned up here. Harry there's another great milsurp that maybe you have gotten to play with - what was the swiss one from that period? The STG? I have only seen the odd picture of them here and there, but the charging handle looks the same as the ones on the K31 straight pulls...

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    1. That's a shame, Glenn. When my middle brother was living in California, they instituted a semi-auto ban with an extensive list of guns , and one was the SKS. I had picked up a couple of Russian SKS rifles for him, and he wound up having to send them to me here in Georgia, or turn them in to be destroyed. That was probably 20 years ago, and I haven't noticed that California has been spared lunatic or terrorist shootings in the interim as as result of it. Nobody obeys those laws but law abiding people, the crazies and criminals aren't bothered by them.

      I know the gun you are talking about, and some were imported into the U.S. but not many. As I recall, they were very expensive. Wish I had one. I do have two of the K31 rifles. When I bought them, I took them to the range to test out. There was an old guy named Max there at the club. He had been a German mountain trooper in WW2, went to Canada after the war, and wound up in North Georgia. He took one of the K-31's and was shooting white rocks the size of a golf ball out on the 300 yard line, didn't bother with the target. The K31's really are "tack drivers." Max is long dead now, but I always remember him shooting those rocks with the iron sights, one after the other.

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  2. It's strange that foreigners would lionize Trump so, when even his own party doesn't support him here. I suppose the reason is that they (foreigners) don't have money to make from his enemies.

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    1. When the RNC phone bank called me this year soliciting my annual contribution (which was relatively minuscule, I told them that I wasn't a Republican anymore, and not to call me again. I'm done with them, after 40 years of being a loyal supporter. Now I am a "Trumpist".

      Half the people in this country are either completely unhinged, part of the left wing lunatic fringe, or shouldn't be here at all.

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  3. I have a friend in Spain who carried one of those CETME Cs for six years as a paratrooper. I sent him the Classic Firearms listing for it this morning and now he is all bent out of shape cause he can't buy them over there. I see Classic also has the PTR-32 which is the same thing but in 7.62x39. I think that would be an interesting one to own.

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    1. My Cetme is a really good rifle. I have heard that Century, which has an unsavory reputation for getting in a hurry to get the guns to market and not doing such good work when they assemble them, messed up some of the Cetme's but mine wasn't one of them.

      I have some AK-47 and SKS rifles , but that's all I have in 7.62X39. I think I read about the PTR-32 some time back but don't remember much about it. It would be nice to have a Cetme style rifle in that chambering, though. Cheap and plentiful ammo, while 7.62X51 seems to be drying up on the surplus market.

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  4. All Hail Trumpus Maximus Vidi, Vici, Veni!

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    1. I think he is the Vespasian of our time. Tough, blunt, even course but practical, and in touch with "the people". The aristos of the day hated Vespasian and the aristos of today hate Trump.

      Ave, Trumpus Maximus!

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  5. I used to want a H&K 91 in the worst way when I was a teenager back in late 1970's (I had never heard of the CETME back hen). Until I hefted on at a local gun show. Oy, I could not imagine lugging that around in our 100+ degree summers down here, no thanks !

    We used to have a store that catered to the 'scratch and dent' groceries, but they finally sold out and became a cheap furniture store. We miss them - the food labels were not the common stuff, but they tasted just as good. Our 'Farmers Market' is way too proud on their prices, though I understand how much trouble it is to put up - take down their produce for a few hours. Local flea markets have to do.

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    1. Weight is an issue with a lot of the old battle rifles. When I was in my thirties, I could lug around an Enfield, Mauser or whatever all through these mountains, never bothered me. Now, it makes a difference. I hardly carry my Colt .45's anymore because even in a good Galco shoulder holster, the weight is a bit much.

      We had a department store up here that sold everything someone living in the mountains could ever need. Everything. Even guns and ammo. Then it got bought out, and completely refigured to cater exclusively to the illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America that were flooding into the mountains. I know exactly how you feel, never go there anymore.

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  6. Also keep an eye for the CETME L to hit the market here some time in the near future. They are the downsized 5.56 version of the C. The have been now replaced by the HK-G-36. I expect Century will be cutting a deal to import those and either sell them as parts kits or build new receivers in semi auto only.
    https://youtu.be/GLAfqI8DHjY

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    1. I knew the Cetme had been produced in a 5.56 version but had never seen any advertised on the market here. It wouldn't surprise me at all. If you see them on offer, let me know. I'll keep an eye out too.

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  7. Well look at that, someone is already selling the CETME L here.
    A CETME that doe not weigh as much as an anvil.
    http://www.semiuk59.com/cetme-l.html
    https://youtu.be/cZPHyRQSPhQ

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    1. I guess that answered that question! I'll take a look. Might be something I'd like to add to my "rainy day" collection.

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    2. I did a bit more digging.
      Seems they are out of stock right now but here is one outfit that sells parts "kits" with the receiver stamping for the DIY crowd. That might be up my alley.
      https://www.hmgunworks.com/products/cetme/
      if you backtrack on their page you can see they also sell an STG replica in 5.56. Not cheap though.
      Copper Customs that is Military Arms Channel on youtube also sells the Cetme L when they have them in stock.
      https://coppercustom.com/firearms/roller-lock-hk-style

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  8. Islam is an evil, Satanic religion. They are getting a foothold here in the USA....the left is living in la la land and they want to take our guns so we will become like Austria and Germany. Not happening!!

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    1. It's the fastest growing religion in America, which somehow doesn't surprise me. On Fridays, down in Atlanta, the mobs swell out of the mosques into the streets and block traffic, but the police don't do anything about it. People just learn to use different side roads to go around. Mustn't do anything that interferes with someone else's religion or culture, even if they are interfering with your getting home from work at the end of the week.

      2020 is looking bad. A lot of people like me will not support a Republican candidate other than President Trump. The left will turn out in vast swarms, like they did in the governor's race down here. We get a Bernie clone for President, and the Dems get majorities in the House and Senate, it'll be the bad old days of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, but in spades.

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  9. We better not hear from you for a few days. Go have fun take the family to a nice lunch for valentine's day. Enjoy the time they are their. Its ok to ask your son to help with an odd job or two while he is their. Do more than chocolates for the wife she puts up with you. Cancel that, that was my moms advise to me. :)

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    1. We're having a good visit. The kids are pretty worn out and haven't felt like doing much but sleeping and sitting by the fire. Been rainy all day yesterday and today it's cold with a harsh wind. But we are enjoying their visit a lot. Glenn doesn't mind helping me with things, we always worked together when he was still living here and we have a good relationship.

      Miriam and I usually go out for dinner , up in the next county to a place she really likes. It's too expensive for just normal dining out, but Valentine's Day , it's just right.

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  10. I really like the FAL-style of rifle, but for the sake of logistics I went with the PTR/G3/HK91-style. I've a handful of PTR rifles and have been very pleased with them. When CTD had mags for $0.97/@ I went long and picked up hundreds of them. That was the clincher for me. Nowadays I might have done it differently and gone with an AR10 for .308, but I'm pretty happy with my G#-pattern guns. I would stay away from Century-built stuff, though. Century's reputation for guns that they have built is pretty bad and pretty well deserved. I've been told theyve cleaned up their act but why take chances? New PTR G3 rifles dealer at about $880 and you know theyre built solidly.

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    1. I have 3 Century built guns. A Cetme, an FAL, and a G3. There were production troubles with all three initially, and Century doesn't do any aesthetically pleasing work on the internal parts, they look rough. Mine have all been good shooters, but I never rushed out and bought a gun put together by Century, I always waited til the dust settled and they fixed the inevitable glitches caused by their rush to production. Most of that was in the nineties, I don't really know how they are doing now, although I've heard good things about their AK series.

      I've heard good things about the PTR rifles, but never owned one myself.

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  11. Welcome back Harry, just found out you were back today.

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    1. Glad you stopped by. I just got started on the blog again here not too long ago, and I'm doing it a little differently. I think it will work better in a lot of ways.

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